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Mach93 10-09-2013 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by jetlink (Post 1499104)
On this last bid you should have been able to bid A320 without restrictions.

Yes we should have, but manpower planning had other ideas. It was also brought to the Union's attention but they have been no help either.

Short Bus Drive 10-09-2013 04:29 PM

I was responding to the post of uhires have no seat lock.
I do. I can't go down in equipment. I MIGHT have been able to go to JFK76 FO for a gain of 10% (because NEW hires there), but then have to cover all three airports. Tolls add up!
I would have liked to go to 737and gain a good 30% in EWR, but I am not allowed. So to say NO uhire has NO seat lock is untrue.
And on the other hand, I believe not ALL uhires are seat locked.

Zoomie 10-09-2013 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by jetlink (Post 1499104)
On this last bid you should have been able to bid A320 without restrictions.

I concur. I would definitely take up your plight with grievance at the union. This is something that I would definitely bring to everyone's attention.

You were also "officially" recalled from furlough, so I would assume that alone would allow you to bid whatever you can hold with a vacancy anywhere.

DaMnad 10-09-2013 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Freddriver5 (Post 1499105)
I hope your misinformed...that would suck for both the recalls and the company. Sewark for the recalls and six months of positive space for the company. I wouldn't wish Newark on my enemy....

That is the case, just returned from the Ball (God save the ball) ceremony and the class is named the Sewark 12.

Duckdude 10-10-2013 05:08 AM

I was hired at CO in February as a 1 time furloughed guy on the Guppy. I was based in DCA pre-furlough. I bid DCA 320FO in the latest bid so I could drive to work instead of flying and was denied due to a two year seat lock. Spoke with my flight manager and he confirmed the seat lock and showed it to me in the contract. It is quite clear that it is a two year seat lock for people returning from furlough.

Short Bus Drive 10-10-2013 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by Zoomie (Post 1499235)
I concur. I would definitely take up your plight with grievance at the union. This is something that I would definitely bring to everyone's attention.

You were also "officially" recalled from furlough, so I would assume that alone would allow you to bid whatever you can hold with a vacancy anywhere.

UHires at CAL were "officially recalled" to their current position...
I believe the A320 should be considered as "NEW" equipment, but it seems management doesn't think so.

Mach93 10-10-2013 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 1499399)
UHires at CAL were "officially recalled" to their current position...
I believe the A320 should be considered as "NEW" equipment, but it seems management doesn't think so.

And as far as union is concerned they don't consider it new equipment either so there is no way to grieve it. Furloughees screwed again....

beeker 10-10-2013 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by LAX Pilot (Post 1498865)
Wow. Looks like all the movement and open jobs are on the L-UAL side. Good thing UAL pilots brought all the movement and growth to the merger.

(You guys now I'm being facetious because we had to listen to this for 3 years from somebody else on here)

Will be interesting to see next months bid.

I'm wondering what is the plan to train all these pilots? I heard new hires to be 100 per month starting in January? Anyone have good info on this?

The way it looks to me is that UAL brought all the most undesired position to the merger, thus the unfilled postions.

Of course I'm just stirring stuff up also.

jetlink 10-10-2013 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 1499115)
I was responding to the post of uhires have no seat lock.
I do. I can't go down in equipment. I MIGHT have been able to go to JFK76 FO for a gain of 10% (because NEW hires there), but then have to cover all three airports. Tolls add up!
I would have liked to go to 737and gain a good 30% in EWR, but I am not allowed. So to say NO uhire has NO seat lock is untrue.
And on the other hand, I believe not ALL uhires are seat locked.

Lock in the equipment and category is different story, it is contractual 24 months lock. But for anybody in the same category as B737 and A320, this last bid should have allowed a freedom to move to your desire equipment and base as long as there is a vacancy for the equipment, move sideways and up.
Those unfilled vacancies should be first assigned to those that have a standing bid for that A/C and base and their bid has not been fulfill, before they give it away to new hires.
It's time to test our newly elected representatives in in our united: United MEC ;)

LAX Pilot 10-10-2013 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by beeker (Post 1499473)
The way it looks to me is that UAL brought all the most undesired position to the merger, thus the unfilled postions.

Of course I'm just stirring stuff up also.

That's why people are complaining that they can't bid into bases like IAD but nobody complaining about not being able to be New Jersey based. :)

I was honestly shocked to see Airbus FOs bid into Guppy FO positions. I think they did it for seniority reasons mostly, hence a lot of Airbus FO unfilled slots.


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