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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
(Post 1499698)
Too bad the pay doesn't reflect that. The failed SLI grab pay banding which didn't work.
Now we have to live with the cruddy guppy payrates. At least the 757s are being parked, so we don't have to worry about flying them at guppy payrates. Lastly, below your avatar, you imply you lost 2300 numbers in the SLI. Care to explain the math behind your reasoning on that? |
Originally Posted by JoePatroni
(Post 1499841)
Amen. IMHO, the 757 is THE most capable aircraft ever built. I was on it for seven years and it was an impressive machine whether it was a transcon, Europe, Quito/Bogota, or the Caribbean.
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Originally Posted by XHooker
(Post 1499845)
Did you have pay banding before the merger?
How did pre-merger UAL 757 pay compare to pre-merger CAL 737 pay? Lastly, below your avatar, you imply you lost 2300 numbers in the SLI. Care to explain the math behind your reasoning on that? The 2,300 is how many numbers I dropped in the SLI. So I "lost" that seniority. It will take about 5-6 years to get to my old number. |
Originally Posted by socalflyboy
(Post 1499870)
Then why in the world is it not being built anymore/ why are we parking them them????
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
(Post 1499818)
I was pass traveling and one of our 737s couldn't make a trip 3/4 across the country without removing 15 passengers because it was too heavy.
9 years on the Airbus doing mostly transcons and I've never had seats blocked off or passengers removed. |
Originally Posted by Really
(Post 1499881)
15 yrs on the 737 and never left people! They wanted to in Denver during a snow storm! However, after I talked to dispatch and load plan switched runway and got everyone on. I guess you just were unlucky!:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
(Post 1499894)
Unlucky? Almost EVERY guppy flying to Hawaii from LAX or SFO has seats blocked. When you fly a bunch of small hops like at a regional you are probably ok, but replacing 757 flying with a guppy is a bad idea.
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
(Post 1499873)
UAL 757 paid more than CAL 737. Even the Airbus paid more than the guppy. Yes we had pay banding, but not 767 to 747 or guppy to 757.
The 2,300 is how many numbers I dropped in the SLI. So I "lost" that seniority. It will take about 5-6 years to get to my old number. UALs rates were as follows: A320 - CA $137.14 A320 - FO $93.66 B757 - CA $158.94 B757 - FO $109.64 Now you can argue that if all you flew was -700 series, you would make less but since all the -500 and -300's were gone by the merger, the odds of flying a small narrowbody were very small. |
The 757's are great aircraft, my personal favorite, but they are being parked because some of ours are very old. They are not being built because no one was ordering them.
700's and 800's are capable, but I think the 900 and ER are not a good fit for N America. We have too many small, inner city airports. They are fine for Asia where most runways are sea level and 12k + feet. Our 320's are getting up there as well. The 320 and 321 that you can take delivery of today, are more capable than UAL's. They are much less performance limited than 800 and 900's. I think the 900's are a mistake. I will take a 321 any day. |
Originally Posted by Probe
(Post 1499964)
The 757's are great aircraft, my personal favorite, but they are being parked because some of ours are very old. They are not being built because no one was ordering them.
700's and 800's are capable, but I think the 900 and ER are not a good fit for N America. We have too many small, inner city airports. They are fine for Asia where most runways are sea level and 12k + feet. Our 320's are getting up there as well. The 320 and 321 that you can take delivery of today, are more capable than UAL's. They are much less performance limited than 800 and 900's. I think the 900's are a mistake. I will take a 321 any day. Just FYI the -800 is probably the best and has no real limitations domestically. It has great range and about the right amount of seats. |
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