Not true. It's LCAL people running that still. DENTK is run by LUAL and its a much better experience.

Agree. Look what happened to the airline the first month we started using the LCAL CCS nightmare.

While it is fun to play the blame game. The truth of the matter is that it wouldn't take much to standardize the training syllabus throughout the company. A couple of swift strokes with a scab axe and you simply put the time tested and highly efficient DENTK syllabus in place, it would take about two months and the problem would be solved.

For this to happen it would require the IAH training center to admit that they have a problem, it would require management to actually listen and be willing to make a change for the betterment of the company as a whole. It would require the shunting and bruising of some egos and of course it ain't going to happen. What was I thinking.

Anyone who has been through training in both DEN and IAH care to comment on the differences?

Yes.

TK is a white table cloth dining experience compared to the cow pasture chuck wagon chow that is IAH training.....

Nope, the Training Scheduling used to be in the sim building in IAH and was moved North over a year ago. Very few, if any, schedulers went with it. Huge tug of war between Flt Standards and Training depts from sUA and sCAL causing most of the timeline training issues in the day to day training operation. There ARE issues with the 737 AQP program (I've been thru it 3 times) that need to be seriously addressed.

Appears that the 757 and 777 programs are doing okay in both training process and scheduling issues, although there has been some snafus with 777 landings scheduled correctly into DEN TK.

Point is, it's not all black and white blame game like you continuously portray.

The schedulers don't make the schedule. The managers do. Who is managing it? FWIW, the kind of garbage described here and on the other forums never happened at TK.

Scott

When a certain 'class' of pilots are dominate, they don't complain and accept a lower standard...

Wrong again. This doesn't explain the difference between DENTK and IAH plus all the Uhires that 100% have seen both sides and know the difference. We can't run United like we used to run the big regional known as Continental.

PBS, CCS, Shares, etc are all failures and the LCAL leadership that we inherited wont let them go along with their belief that if we replace 757s and 767s with guppies that will fix everything.

Scott, the training scheduling managers and schedulers are not on site anymore in IAH, reducing the ease with which snafu's occurring in the day to day operation. Sim goes down at night or on a weekend cascades changes to students schedules that used to be able to be handled with a walk across the hall. Now it involves contact with the mother ship that might or might not answer the phone.