Again, UAL didn't build Continental's training program. Of the UAL guys that I know that have gone through the CAL program (Uhires) has nothing good to say about it other than that the PI's were solid (kudos). This isn't Fred's establishment anymore.

Scott

You did not address one thing I said. You, predictably, went on another CAL sucks rant. I know its hard for you MENSA types to slow down the mental activity level to that of mere mortal, but focus. I agree (and stated) there are substantial issues with the 737 AQP program that have existed forever. However, many of the training scheduling snafus are resulting from the fact that there is no more day to day support in the building to handle the inevitable issues that crop up. That was a post merger change that was ill advised, especially for training the largest fleet in the airline.

Now, please continue with your daily rantings about CCS, Shares, Guppies, etc.

Don't forget your '83 saviors! :rolleyes:

Thats been acknowledged. The program needs a reboot, and it should have happened years ago. Problem was everything got put on hold in 2010 when we had dueling POI's. Now we are stuck because you can't just tweak an AQP Program, you have to start a parallel program and get it up to speed while simultaneously supporting the existing one to keep from shutting the whole fleet down during a program switchover. I don't now how they are going to do it, but it does need to be a priority. The program footprint has not fundamentally changed in 15 years, they've just added more stuff like RNP, ETOPS, etc to make the syllabus bloated and completely unbalanced.

However, the company is not doing themselves any favors by the minimal support they are providing in the daily operation. A lot of that goes back to an existing turf war between flt standards and training.

That goes without saying.

A quick look at the 737 trng org chart shows some work still to be done on this front.

(1) Program Mgr
(2) Instructors (PCA)
(9) APD (Evaluators)

I know I'm opening up myself here but, could someone please explain what makes TK so much better (I could care less whose program we follow or where training is located, since it only happens once a yr.) Personally, I hope it ends up in Denver since thats where I'm from and would be nice to have a 2 months to spend there!! Please give specifics on whats better and leave out the cafeteria!! :eek: I have been through 4 different type ratings at LCAL and all have been fine!! I don't know what would make it great since I hate training!! It's like going to the library at College where it was quite and to much studying was going on!! :eek: Every course I've been through they are very prepared and made sure I was ready for my type ride!! I've never had any issues with any training courses. I work hard but, am not the best student! They always have me fully prepared! The only thing I've heard from some of the Uhires I've flown with is that it is much more intense (compressed amount time for course and 1 or 2 less sim periods) Other than that, it's usually about the food! I'm not going to bash the UAL training because I've never been through it I'm sure it was good.(But, it was still just training!) I hope the people responding to me will be people that have been through BOTH and can give specifics on what is different! Please no "mine is bigger than yours" stories!!

How do you know its fine, if you know nothing else....

So that's your answer? :confused: I know because they did a GREAT job like I stated in my post!! Was that confusing for you? How do you know if your college education didn't measure up if you didn't go to Harvard? I probably just ticked off all the Stanford people!! Snarge, how did I know you would be the first one to respond without an answer!!:rolleyes: Is that what they taught you in ground school?

Just trying to spark your critical thinking skills..... sorry to offend you.

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Scott