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UAL T38 Phlyer 01-13-2014 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 1558021)
In all my military training, what point 99 describes is exactly how we do it. Wait around the ready room for an instructor you may or may not already know, meet and shake hands, then look for a place to brief. .....

I'm an Air Force guy, but flew with the Navy for two years in a VT squadron.

What Grumble describes was what I saw in the Navy.

What Point99 describes is more common in Air Force training, both UPT, and MWS.

You could say both training centers are similar to the military. TK is more like the Air Force. Houston is more Like the Navy. Both get the job done.

I've never been to the IAH facility. But I've been through five programs at TK. I never had any complaints about my training there, other than van rides to the hotel, and midnight sim times.

Really 01-13-2014 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1558006)
It shouldn't be this way. The United training center was set up to run like a military organization, which means efficient, professional, and on time. I've never been to the CAL guppy school, but it sounds like they should try a little organization at least.

Then you should probably not comment on something you know nothing about!! :rolleyes: Leave it to people that have valuable comments that actually add to the discussion!!

emrickman 01-13-2014 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 1558101)
I'm an Air Force guy, but flew with the Navy for two years in a VT squadron.

What Grumble describes was what I saw in the Navy.

What Point99 describes is more common in Air Force training, both UPT, and MWS.

You could say both training centers are similar to the military. TK is more like the Air Force. Houston is more Like the Navy. Both get the job done.

I've never been to the IAH facility. But I've been through five programs at TK. I never had any complaints about my training there, other than van rides to the hotel, and midnight sim times.

Sorry, IAH is nothing like Navy training.

Airhoss 01-13-2014 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Really (Post 1558113)
Then you should probably not comment on something you know nothing about!! :rolleyes: Leave it to people that have valuable comments that actually add to the discussion!!


Those people have commented and the consensus is that IAH training is disorganized and off the hip. So what's your point?

oldmako 01-13-2014 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Really (Post 1558113)
:rolleyes: Leave it to people that have valuable comments that actually add to the discussion!!

Man what a boring forum this would be if we held all posters to that level of veracity.

Really 01-13-2014 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1558280)
Those people have commented and the consensus is that IAH training is disorganized and off the hip. So what's your point?

And I've enjoy reading their posts!! I didn't know my point was so hard to follow! :rolleyes: Pilot64 has never been through IAH training so why is he commenting on the quality of said training! I guess I'm qualified to give my impression of UAL training since I've driven past TK 100's of times going to work when Stapleton was open! And I did stay at a Holiday Inn once! ;)

Really 01-13-2014 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1558332)
Man what a boring forum this would be if we held all posters to that level of veracity.

Very true!! Point well taken!

pilot64golfer 01-13-2014 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Really (Post 1558494)
Pilot64 has never been through IAH training so why is he commenting on the quality of said training! )

Just pointed out that all the Uhires stated it was the worst training they'd ever been through yet none of the CAL pilots had been through TK and have no frame of reference.

Really 01-14-2014 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1558507)
Just pointed out that all the Uhires stated it was the worst training they'd ever been through yet none of the CAL pilots had been through TK and have no frame of reference.

Bingo! Thats my point!! Your comment was "worthless" in this conversation!! The Uhires can say how much it's crap and post ideas about how to make it better. Is it your belief that they cannot speak for themselves, without your help? You know that the only value you bring to this board is "entertainment value" which is why I do reply to you!! :rolleyes: I don't really value much of what you say since I know what your agenda is. However, I am entertained with some of your posts like James says makes this board fun!!

PVpilot 01-14-2014 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1558507)
Just pointed out that all the Uhires stated it was the worst training they'd ever been through yet none of the CAL pilots had been through TK and have no frame of reference.

Actually, I fly with a lot of Uhires and they say the training in Houston was great. I've always had good experiences at Houston TC. Brand new top of the line sims with good quality instructors. I have to admit it's nice flying the new planes and sims. If you want to fly the newest planes in the fleet, 737 and 787's, you're going to H town. All Lcal, Uhires, and all new hires have gone thru Houston and apparently there's a long line of Lual pilots waiting in line for there H town training. They must be doing something right as the majority of all United pilots, including Lual, will go thru the Houston Training System.


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