Passenger Rant- UAL?
#11
Good points. all. I guess mine is that I'm constantly hearing how foreign carriers are so much better at pulling this air carrier thing off. Why would a domestic airline not try this model? I'd be willing to bet people would pay a little more for an outstanding product.
On the other point, I'm not really letting it get to me. I just row the boat. But I do want the passengers to be happy with the service.
On the other point, I'm not really letting it get to me. I just row the boat. But I do want the passengers to be happy with the service.
#12
Good points. all. I guess mine is that I'm constantly hearing how foreign carriers are so much better at pulling this air carrier thing off. Why would a domestic airline not try this model? I'd be willing to bet people would pay a little more for an outstanding product.
On the other point, I'm not really letting it get to me. I just row the boat. But I do want the passengers to be happy with the service.
On the other point, I'm not really letting it get to me. I just row the boat. But I do want the passengers to be happy with the service.
#13
Sadly, the management of UAL has determined that we only have to work enough to suck as bad as DAL and AMR...and they have even failed their execution of that low threshold.
#14
<<"Sadly, the management of UAL has determined that we only have to work enough to suck as bad as DAL and AMR...and they have even failed their execution of that low threshold">> Bingo.
And as CuzEd mentioned, one simply cannot compare foreign airlines to those in the US. Many of them receive generous subsidies and are seen as Ambassadors for the country. How much do you think that Etihad pays for jet fuel, or their employees?
I think that 99 percent of us are sick of this business model and the lousy product we offer because of it. I hate it when someone asks me what I do for a living. But, I have learned how to roll with the body blows.
And as CuzEd mentioned, one simply cannot compare foreign airlines to those in the US. Many of them receive generous subsidies and are seen as Ambassadors for the country. How much do you think that Etihad pays for jet fuel, or their employees?
I think that 99 percent of us are sick of this business model and the lousy product we offer because of it. I hate it when someone asks me what I do for a living. But, I have learned how to roll with the body blows.
#15
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From: A320 Cap
Good points. all. I guess mine is that I'm constantly hearing how foreign carriers are so much better at pulling this air carrier thing off. Why would a domestic airline not try this model? I'd be willing to bet people would pay a little more for an outstanding product.
On the other point, I'm not really letting it get to me. I just row the boat. But I do want the passengers to be happy with the service.
On the other point, I'm not really letting it get to me. I just row the boat. But I do want the passengers to be happy with the service.
#16
Be on time, make the connection, don't **** off the customer is about all that matters. Simple things we are failing miserably at.
#17
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What James said..........
The customers are getting what they pay for. They are paying the absolute lowest price that they can click on.
It is a very complicated system with lots of moving parts. If you have 100,000 torqued off employees that don't care, it is only 79% reliable.
Spend of bunch of time and money on employee morale, and the reliability goes way up to..............84%.
For 200 dollars, you can get on a plane and fly 5.5 hours across the continental US. Three quarters of the time, reliably and on time.
It is a good thing I am not a CS agent. I would tell people to buy a horse and wagon, and walk like they used too. There are no baggage fees that way, and their expectations of an "on-time arrival" go way down.
The customers are getting what they pay for. They are paying the absolute lowest price that they can click on.
It is a very complicated system with lots of moving parts. If you have 100,000 torqued off employees that don't care, it is only 79% reliable.
Spend of bunch of time and money on employee morale, and the reliability goes way up to..............84%.
For 200 dollars, you can get on a plane and fly 5.5 hours across the continental US. Three quarters of the time, reliably and on time.
It is a good thing I am not a CS agent. I would tell people to buy a horse and wagon, and walk like they used too. There are no baggage fees that way, and their expectations of an "on-time arrival" go way down.
#18
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From: DAL 330
I'm the new guy at a major airline and perhaps it was the FAR 117 thing but I was embarrassed at how shockingly inept the airline industry is at dealing with irregular ops. Its almost like we've never dealt with it before. There was a lady crying while on hold with an airline on the hotel bus and another guy who said he was a Platinum traveler who spent 7 hrs on hold to iron out his itinerary. OK, I understand that we can't control the weather, but 7 HOURS on hold? We don't have some agents contracted to be on standby or something? I saw agents treating passengers like crap, 300 people in the Customer Service line at SFO, etc. etc. Like I said, I was embarrassed for the whole industry.
Well if the airlines were staffed to efficiently handle events that occur a few times a year the passengers would be crying every time they buy a ticket.
Airlines used to make money below 60% load factor but tickets cost a lot more. Well the market has spoken - people want cheap tickets. They will complain about everything but when it comes to behavior (buying a ticket) the almight dollar rules supreme.
Sad as it is - the U.S. airline industry is giving its passengers exactly what they want. Cheap tickets.
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#19
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You have dressed appropriately when TSA pre-check looks at you funny for all those liquids in your bag. Flash them with the non-creepy overcoat and all is well. Brownie points when you walk up to your gate and the agent says boarding has not begun yet.
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