No bubble busted here - I do understand your feelings waiting for that day, unfortunately?

Yes really. The NAT Tracks do not work on the same rules as the Pacific. This is from the most current manual. Be sure and read the bold print.


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Sunvox

If you read my complete post you would see that his blanket statement "International Law" is what I am poking at. It is not a blanket statement for all the ClassII nav airspace. You will also notice I state how my flights follow those rules along the NAT Track over the Atlantic, we hard set the cleared MACH. Notice I say cleared MACH that is because some may confuse what is in their FP with the clearance.

In the past UAL actually allowed the use of ECON to meet this restriction, as I stated, when I was in the 767 fleet the management actually encouraged it as long as it met the caveat, You couldn't violate the MACH requirements of the track clearance!

So calm your mules and read before you write. You got to realize each airspace has it own rules and to make a blanket statement like the one made isn't correct. Now let me ask you this, have you ever flown through China or Russian airspace? Is this a blanket statement about them also? Each country and airspace have their own unique rules, it is not a blanket International Law!

Whewww

BTW Did you also notice my instruction to FOs whose Captains fail/refuse to follow the FOM guidance? Write them up! Cover your Ass! Of course let them know you are doing it.

Sunvox:

I'll repost what else I wrote:

"I'm basically lazy and hate writing reports, so on my flights we fix the mach where it's required"

Let me say it again, ..."where it's required!!!!!"

Thanks for posting the FOM, but how does my statement compare to what you shoved in my face? Do you think I don't know it?

Now go and show it in the brief to those Captains who don't follow it on your NAT track flights, before you leave Flight Ops, oops the CPO, oops the Captain wouldn't meet the crew because the FOM only says "should."

They fought a fight that YOU definitely don't appreciate!! Unfortunately, you had no peers (as far as LONG TERM strikers) to learn from when you were in the right seat!! Yes, you had a strike (30 days) and many scabs in that short time but, no one that had to sit out for YEARS which is a whole different ballgame!! I'll be waiting for your excuse!:rolleyes:

You guys amaze me! Go ahead and vote YES to give away scope, accept pay less than Delta, etc but you better wear a piece of jewelry or else! Forest for the trees...

Yup.

And you seem just as guilty of shortsightedness, simply in a different way, if you don't understand the reason for the pin.

Just saying.

Sunvox:

Just so we maintain some precision, I was incorrect and missed your post was from the NA MNPSA OPs MAN and not the FOM.

Sorry for the error.

You're right, I had no CAL scabs to learn from. What I did have was a family of striking CAL pilots to learn from. You are not and never will be part of that group and like your peers(notice lower case) you chose greed over the collective good. One again, the cal pilots find themselves on the low road.

Regularguy,

Did you willingly quit United to go to work for Continental?