Originally Posted by gettinbumped

There is no sense responding to a delusional post with a delusional response. LUAL liquidating?? You should really go review the financials in 2010 pre merger.

No offense, but I've never seen anything like the operation we've been running over the past year. Everything is a total nightmare. I'm well aware of LUAL's issues, our past, struggles with passenger satisfaction etc. The trend, however, was moving upward from a VERY low bottom. Tilton wanted a merger and managed as such. The employees were along for the ride. The choice was CAL or USAirways. CAL seemed the better choice, though I think 100% of us would have preferred to work for a management that wanted to RUN an airline and grow independently. I GUARANTEE you the 1998 hires who are now below your 2006 hires would have preferred it. So you were the better of the two choices we were faced with. I wouldn't get so excited about that.

On the CAL side your systems, managers and leaders are now controlling the airline. I'm not sure if they don't work because they can't handle the addition of so many employees, or if the merger is exposing how poor they are, but clearly it's not working. And it's not just the pilots. The CAL team is choosing to divide and conquer the flight attendants STILL with no end in sight. The better path is on display at Delta every day but Jeff doesn't want to see it. In the meantime I still find pay errors every month, can't figure out this horrendous PBS, and can't tell how long my sit is between flights without doing the math rather than just looking at the number.

I'm exaggerating to make my point. LCAL was not the pinnacle of a auto you pretend it was. LUAL was by no means going away. I hope you realize that and were just responding to hopesales typical flame bait. If you notice, many of us LUAL's have called him out for his ridiculous posts. Don't sink to that level.

Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp05

Ha! More proof of your alternate reality! LUAL was considered the lowest of the low! EVERY single pax that I've spoken to since the merger - EVERY ONE - laments the day of the merger and wishes that Continental never merged with the anchor of UAL. Pre-merger, UAL pilots were literally begging to join with CAL. Not once did I ever hear a pax or employee hope that we merged with UAL. The common belief was UAL would soon liquidate and then all the legacies would pick up the pieces. (Of course, I'm expecting you to deny any of this since all that seems to count in many LUAL pilots' eyes, particularly your merger committee and former employee mR. Eichen, is the ONE year that you all actually made a profit in the last TEN plus!)

You are either flame baiting or completely delusional...

Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp05

Ha! More proof of your alternate reality! LUAL was considered the lowest of the low! EVERY single pax that I've spoken to since the merger - EVERY ONE - laments the day of the merger and wishes that Continental never merged with the anchor of UAL. Pre-merger, UAL pilots were literally begging to join with CAL. Not once did I ever hear a pax or employee hope that we merged with UAL. The common belief was UAL would soon liquidate and then all the legacies would pick up the pieces. (Of course, I'm expecting you to deny any of this since all that seems to count in many LUAL pilots' eyes, particularly your merger committee and former employee mR. Eichen, is the ONE year that you all actually made a profit in the last TEN plus!)

You are either flame baiting or completely delusional...

Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp05

You digress from the original issue, but I'll play along. Just because you say you're scared of the boogey man doesn't make him real. Did you even read the TPA? This nonsense of taking CA seats, routes, etc from the LUAL side is utter rubbish. You can continue to play the game that LUAL was a healthy airline, but deep down you know that LUAL was in big, big trouble and the merger resuscitated your careers. The TPA protected 100% of CAL flying but only 90% of the LUAL flying. YOUR MEC agreed to this. Merger of equals? Yeah right.

Btw - My question was NOT rhetorical. Slick tie or internet tough guy who votes yes to save his career and then plays Mr. High and Mighty? Who most resembles the scab?

Originally Posted by nopac6

If "Continental" was such corporate nirvana and United was such crap, why was YOUR GUY so quick to use the United brand for the combined airline? Are you really that stupid or are YOU flame baiting?

Originally Posted by nopac6

If "Continental" was such corporate nirvana and United was such crap, why was YOUR GUY so quick to use the United brand for the combined airline? Are you really that stupid or are YOU flame baiting?

Originally Posted by CousinEddie

Mitch. In April of 2010 UAL and US were about to sign a deal. Smisek jumped in and stopped it ( remember that the ugly girl / pretty girl bit?). Why? If your business plan was so solid, why did he jump in? If UAL was to liquidate as you say, why would he have cared about it?

Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp05

So now Smisek is a genius and smart business man?!!!??? "My guy" turned UAL down TWICE! Larry Kellner saw the decay and top heavy structure of UAL and ran away as fast as he could. You could thank Chase (and of course Jeffery!) for the merger.

Originally Posted by syd111

Just like I figured, just shooting the mouth off as usual. I can only hope you are not really a Ual pilot and just come on here to stir the pot. I was not "harping" just asked a simple question from your previous post, of course just some random silly response from you. Your comment about anything I lost was fair says plenty about you and how you look at things here as a group.

Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp05

So now Smisek is a genius and smart business man?!!!??? "My guy" turned UAL down TWICE! Larry Kellner saw the decay and top heavy structure of UAL and ran away as fast as he could. You could thank Chase (and of course Jeffery!) for the merger.