Interview Calls & Hiring Predictions
 

I figure we need a separate thread to talk about hiring rather than continuing to hijack the poolie thread. While I am sure there are nowhere near as many concrete answers available as most of us would like, there may at least be some catharsis in trading theories for those of us trying to understand why the phone isn't ringing.

From other threads, it sounds like at least some of the calls for the next round of interviews have gone out. The interviews will run the first couple of weeks in June for September class dates. This suggests calls go out roughly 2-4 weeks prior to interview availability.

As far as how many calls will go out, it sounds like classes have been running a couple of times per month with around a dozen new hires a piece. Based on a 70% success rate with interviews, they'd want to call 30-40 pilots for the June round- a very small selection from 12,000 apps on file. (Around 1 in 300)

For such a small group, I'd expect most, if not all calls have already gone out. For those waiting by the phone, I would expect no more activity until around mid-August, at which point calls will begin again for September interviews. All this, of course, assumes no change in hiring needs between now and then.

Beyond September, I think the hiring predictions are "indefinite", but I believe that was also the prediction beginning last year, so I'd say it's getting too far off to make accurate predictions. Hiring needs will be based on how quickly the pool moves into training, which is subject to backlogs in upgrade/transition needs. Moving forward, the ability to balance hiring, transition, and upgrade needs with actual training capacity will be a challenge for United as well as others, and I wouldn't be surprised to see further "stop and go" in interviews and hiring as they try to find that perfect balance.

Hopefully, those in the know can correct me where I'm wrong, and others will add their thoughts and insights- best of luck to all.

Sorry- looks like I double-posted this somehow. Is there a way to delete the redundant thread?

I believe the number i heard for the June interviews was 52, with a hope to hire about 40 of them. All the selections have been made, but not sure if the calls have gone out.

Good luck!

I was called Friday morning (9 May) and received the Hogan email that night. I did the Hogan test Saturday afternoon and am waiting for whatever comes next. Anyone take the Hogan test and hear words back yet? "...the waiting is the hardest part..."

Last spring when I was hired I heard back within a day. I think it varies though. Good luck!

I took my Hogan test on Saturday as well. Has anybody heardback?

I took the Hogan on a Friday and was called Monday morning.

I'm not sure of they've changed things up, but I was called the morning after I took the Hogan to set up an interview date. This was in October and things have definitely been fluid these past 7 months. Sometimes no news is good news. Good luck to everyone!

The theme so far seems to be that you're good to go as long as you don't get the dreaded "no thanks" email.

What's a Hogan?

I am getting really nervous. How long does it take to get a thanks but no thanks email.

Any common denominators in this group that just recently got the call? Quals, Job Fairs, M&G's?

I wouldn't sweat it. Easier said than done, I know... I'm sure if they saw something they didn't like you'd get a quick email. Anticipate getting the call, they're probably just a little backed up on getting to you. Plus it's only Monday so they might have had a lot of people take it over the weekend.

Is UAL going to call you for an interview if you class I medical expires in less than 6 months? I remember reading somewhere they want it current >6 months out. Any truth to that?

Mine expires in 2 months and I got the call for the Hogans test.

Is it true that if I go 2 days without a rejection email I am in the clear?

Yes, they call for an interview with it downgraded to 2nd class... But you need a 1st class again by the interview

After the Hogan test?

Yes. After the Hogan test.

Eye heer nussing, eye seeee nusssing.

Wait, wrong Hogan

Does anyone have any idea of the 8,000 applications that are at Delta are also the same 8,000 at United and American? Is their anyone that is only wanting to apply at only one of the three? I hear United has like 12,000 applications on file not sure if that is true either?

Of the guys that got calls for the interview did you have any internal LOR's?

Yet another meaningless bunch of psycho babble BS that makes money for the people who pimp it and gives a sense of false security to the clueless corporate mangers who buy into it. And the next thing to come along before the next best thing to come along which will be superseded by yet another major break through at some point that rehashes all the previous psycho babble using big new terms that are invented to sound important to the corporate mangers who haven't a clue what it all really means.


That's my guess anyway.

How long does it take to get rejection email after the phsyc test?

Probably accurate. I'd be amazed if it didn't also help them hire Stepfords.

It's basically a really big sandwhich , like an Italian sub..uh, sorry, that's a hoagie...my bad.:D

My perspective as a new guy sitting in class and meeting a couple of other classes...whatever they are doing I hope they keep it up. everyone I have met has been a great guy or gal. Usually in a class there is 1 or 2 wankers, but I have yet to meet one at TK. (hmmm....maybe that means I am the wanker). Anyway, if you look at the interview process at DL or AA, you will be grateful for how straightforward it is here. Personality test, short interview, short sim. To the guys point on the other thread about selecting FOs and people with less time, I get it, but again, everyone I have met has been really enjoyable to work with. In my opinion, they are doing something right and I hope they keep doing it.

Its been two days since I took the physc test and no email or phone call, should I be worried?

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Awesome! Wonder how many will get it...

I got it in fact I dropped my monocle and it went KLINK when it hit the ground!:)

Bunch of comedians tonight!

All musings about Nazi POW camp set sitcoms aside, a few questions for those who got the call, or who have been through or are in the process currently:

1. Has anyone received the phone call this week? The only calls I've heard of happened before the weekend, so it is possible that all calls for June interviews have gone out already.

2. Can anyone who has already made it through the Hogan portion enlighten us as to the process of acceptance or rejection? (I am assuming the company is not following a strict schedule on this, and that the timeline is going to vary from case to case, but it could help to establish a general timeline.) What is the longest anyone has waited to hear back about the Hogan?

3. If you are willing, please share your qualifications, specifically any special boxes you have checked that you think may have helped you stand out. (I am assuming most of us have a few thousand TPIC and part 121 experience; far fewer will have graduate degrees, heavy jet time, etc.)

If you don't want your moniker attached to any of the above information, you may also PM me and I will post it anonymously for you- thanks for being willing to share.

P.S. To my generation, Hogan was a big muscly guy with a handle bar moustache who thought us to train, say our prayers, and take our vitamins.

Question. I've had my app in at airline apps for a while now. But I haven't heard of the hogan test. Does united send you the info for the test. Just want to make sure I'm on the right track. Thanks all and good luck!

The Hogan is an online personality test that is an initial part of the interview process. When UAL calls you based on your airlineapps profile, the first screening step is to assign you the Hogan test. From what I am told, the failure rate of the Hogan is around 1 in 10. If you successfully complete the Hogan test, the next step is an invitation to the actual interview.

In other words, you do not need to worry about the Hogan as part of your application- it is a screening process for selected applicants.

Got it. Thanks for the info!

I'm not sure where your getting your info from, but I would say the Hogan test is the hardest part about getting hired. I know quite a few people who did not pass the Hogan portion and therefore aren't given the oppurtunity to interview. These are people I really enjoyed flying with and in my opinion have great personalities. Not sure what "personality" United is looking for, but I would guess much more than 1 out of 10 don't pass that test.

I'm not trying to be a Negative Nancy, I'm just saying don't think of it as some stupid test that means nothing. It will be the deciding factor as to whether or not you get some face time and get to sell your real personality.

Called in November for hogan. Took it on Friday night heard back Monday morning. It's two sets of 200 true false questions. They range from I don't like loud noises to I felt loved as a child ect ect. There is no trick. Just don't think about what you are reading and answer honestly. Be consistent. Some questions are repeated verbatim multiple times. Interviewed December 11 in Denver. Good luck.

I get it. I never laughed so hard in my life. Thanks!

And in the end, they will still end up hiring the same cross section of the pilot group: 10% stars, 10% dogs, and 80% average line pilots who will come to work and do the job safely and professionally.

Hog