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08-31-2014, 08:59 AM
#103
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: B756 FO
Posts: 93
I'm considering going from 737 IAH (reserve, 30-50 from the bottom) to 76T EWR (I would hold a line there).
I commute from DFW either way. Am I crazy? Or is that a decent plan. Looks like I'm going to get bumped anyway.
I commute from DFW either way. Am I crazy? Or is that a decent plan. Looks like I'm going to get bumped anyway.
08-31-2014, 09:04 AM
#104
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Gets weekends off
Posts: 1,168
Originally Posted by gofastmopar
I see the pay banding in a totally different light...with fewer bands there is less of a percieved need to chase metal/ training cycles to get a bump in pay... good for pilots who don't really enjoy a two month training cycle.
I.E. the "heavy bucket" of the 747/777/764/787...it is now possible to bid the one whose mission is what you prefer...
I.E. the "heavy bucket" of the 747/777/764/787...it is now possible to bid the one whose mission is what you prefer...
08-31-2014, 01:03 PM
#106
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 439
Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
Agree. But the unintended consequence is that many pilots are going to be guppy Captains that can hold 757 Captain because of the better seniority. Wait until the 787 fence falls....
If the desire is more CAs then the answer is more flying, not more pilots sitting in training. Being inefficient benefits no one. We all hated bankruptcy and concessions yet like crack we keep going back for more of the drug that almost killed us the last few times.
08-31-2014, 02:33 PM
#107
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 439
Keep living in the past and not accept that we are in a new environment. We have a completely different industry now. The business has evolved and the laws have changed too. They can not make as much money now by doing a car wash bankruptcy as they can by running a profitable enterprise. They are in mode of returning value to shareholders. The only way they can do that is to be profitable. Our backstop is the profit sharring.
So back to what my point was. Do you want the company to use money to fund new flying, or to fund paying guys to go visit TK? Which method do want to use to create more Captain jobs?
So back to what my point was. Do you want the company to use money to fund new flying, or to fund paying guys to go visit TK? Which method do want to use to create more Captain jobs?
08-31-2014, 03:07 PM
#108
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: EWR 777 Captain
Posts: 1,715
Originally Posted by Harrier Dude
I'm considering going from 737 IAH (reserve, 30-50 from the bottom) to 76T EWR (I would hold a line there).
I commute from DFW either way. Am I crazy? Or is that a decent plan. Looks like I'm going to get bumped anyway.
I commute from DFW either way. Am I crazy? Or is that a decent plan. Looks like I'm going to get bumped anyway.
08-31-2014, 03:08 PM
#109
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Gets weekends off
Posts: 1,168
Originally Posted by Pkcola
I guess most of us don't understand the effects of drugs like you do. Are you saying the employees caused either or both the merged airlines to pass through bankruptcy? As I recall, in both cases the employee groups gave or had things taken away by management groups that filled their pockets at the expense of the employees through the bankruptcy process. In some ways, it was their restructuring plan and their management style all along. NOTHING - repeat NOTHING the employee groups can do when our airlines are managed by POOR MANAGEMENT.
08-31-2014, 03:11 PM
#110
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Gets weekends off
Posts: 1,168
Originally Posted by El10
So back to what my point was. Do you want the company to use money to fund new flying, or to fund paying guys to go visit TK? Which method do want to use to create more Captain jobs?
If you think that more profits = more routes and jobs you can forget about it, because it isn't happening.
And to answer your question I want every dollar possible to go to the pilots in some manner and none to management.
