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Old 08-30-2014 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Pkcola
It may be because you people like to use "you people" when talking about the other side.
"YOU PEOPLE have not given Private Pyle the proper motivation. So from now on, whenever Pyle ***up, I will not punish him; I will punish all of you! And the way I see it ladies, you owe me for one jelly doughnut! NOW GET ON YOUR FACES!"

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Old 08-30-2014 | 06:46 AM
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"I am in a world of ***

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Old 08-30-2014 | 08:19 AM
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Is it true that the company is releasing some guys from there 76T 756 seat locks early?
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Old 08-31-2014 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
Yes. And we all realize that the LCAL individual line pilot did not do this, nor have any input in this.

There were many LCAL pilots who said "We just want a new contract" and the response was "Contracts come and go but SLI lasts forever". They should be just as angry because they lost out as well, having to wait on a contract, because the pay banding scheme did not work as planned.

No one blames the line LCAL pilot, but in retrospect, this was not a good way to start the marriage. Fortunately that decision making body is disbanded, so I guess we will see how things move forward with the new contract negotiations.
I see the pay banding in a totally different light...with fewer bands there is less of a percieved need to chase metal/ training cycles to get a bump in pay... good for pilots who don't really enjoy a two month training cycle.
I.E. the "heavy bucket" of the 747/777/764/787...it is now possible to bid the one whose mission is what you prefer...
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Old 08-31-2014 | 07:31 AM
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Pay banding equals fewer pilots in training, fewer pilots on the seniority list, fewer captains...
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Old 08-31-2014 | 07:31 AM
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Decision 83 based pay is the way to go.
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Old 08-31-2014 | 08:59 AM
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I'm considering going from 737 IAH (reserve, 30-50 from the bottom) to 76T EWR (I would hold a line there).

I commute from DFW either way. Am I crazy? Or is that a decent plan. Looks like I'm going to get bumped anyway.
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Old 08-31-2014 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by gofastmopar
I see the pay banding in a totally different light...with fewer bands there is less of a percieved need to chase metal/ training cycles to get a bump in pay... good for pilots who don't really enjoy a two month training cycle.
I.E. the "heavy bucket" of the 747/777/764/787...it is now possible to bid the one whose mission is what you prefer...
Agree. But the unintended consequence is that many pilots are going to be guppy Captains that can hold 757 Captain because of the better seniority. Wait until the 787 fence falls....
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Old 08-31-2014 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Shrek
Decision 83 based pay is the way to go.
What is the formula? Does it account for lighter more efficient aircraft?
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Old 08-31-2014 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
Agree. But the unintended consequence is that many pilots are going to be guppy Captains that can hold 757 Captain because of the better seniority. Wait until the 787 fence falls....
How is that a bad thing? They are using there seniority as they wish.

If the desire is more CAs then the answer is more flying, not more pilots sitting in training. Being inefficient benefits no one. We all hated bankruptcy and concessions yet like crack we keep going back for more of the drug that almost killed us the last few times.
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