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Originally Posted by Pkcola
(Post 1727667)
You are correct. I think the point Sunvox was trying to make was that the COMPANY and NOT ALPA causing the trade problems.
Stopping the special deals for the choose few is good and ALPA did that. Yes, I know exactly what he means. We have a better chance of defeating ISIL with a rusty butter knife then getting management to change their ways via a bunch of long winded letters from pilots equating morale with trip trading. Go ahead, write those letters. I'm sure the boys on Mahogany Row could use a good laugh. Most of us know that dollars and regulation are the drivers of change in the world we work. |
Originally Posted by beeker
(Post 1727641)
I don't know what you are doing but I have moved trips up and down the week and 4 days for 3 days. If your a 737 captain, good luck, not going to happen. But as a 737 fo yes you can.
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Isn't there a negotiated trade freeze during line construction?
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Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL
(Post 1727612)
This does stink, I get that. But you do have a line.
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Originally Posted by beeker
(Post 1727641)
I don't know what you are doing but I have moved trips up and down the week and 4 days for 3 days. If your a 737 captain, good luck, not going to happen. But as a 737 fo yes you can.
Glad the system is working for you and i hope you enjoy the staffing levels in your base while you can. I forsee an airline woefully understaffed in all BES's once they get everything "in balance". |
Originally Posted by Pkcola
(Post 1727667)
You are correct. I think the point Sunvox was trying to make was that the COMPANY and NOT ALPA causing the trade problems.
Stopping the special deals for the choose few is good and ALPA did that. |
I also understand the frustrations. Blame the company, not ALPA.
ALPA got the crew desk restricted from doing the special last minute deals for their favored few. You really do not want to go there again. Believe it or not, some try to game the system to get their special deals around the seniority system...I know...unbelievable right? |
Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
(Post 1727819)
I also understand the frustrations. Blame the company, not ALPA.
ALPA got the crew desk restricted from doing the special last minute deals for their favored few. You really do not want to go there again. Believe it or not, some try to game the system to get their special deals around the seniority system...I know...unbelievable right? |
Originally Posted by Privateer20
(Post 1727580)
I have a 3 day 17-19th. A cherry 4 day (16-19th) that shows late and ends early comes open this am at 9:20. Last seniority trade has run, too late for that. Called scheds and union rep, and basically no way to execute this trade. What a bunch of crap. Basically, in my bes you have no way of trading unless it is exact day for a day in the seniority system. Thanks again Alpa. The scheduler tried to help and "wished she could as we used to be able to make this trade, but we are now forbidden from doing it".
Gee sorry if i feel a little entitled as a major airline pilot to think that i may move a day around every once in a while. |
I believe the root of the problem is that this trade runs in "no mans land" between the two systems. The first trip would be in the real time system and the other in the seniority system. I have has this same issue. Really dumb that it can't execute between the two
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