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C11DCA 02-22-2015 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by socalflyboy (Post 1829571)
We're still hiring F/O's? Why?

What's wrong with hiring F/O's?

Per the description, they have 8+ years of regional experience. Not exactly "unqualified" or "newbies" as you seem to suggest. Being a Captain doesn't automatically make one a better pilot or candidate.

DC

bigboeings 02-22-2015 09:52 AM

I was really hoping to get the 756 in April. I want EWR so getting out west is not for me. plus I like the longer flights. Ok thanks for the info.

Pro2nd 02-22-2015 10:17 AM

Well you can always bid up if there are vacancies. No 2 year seat lock for bidding up, only down or lateral. There still may be some 756 spots in April, nothing is certain until its in the past in this business. If you got the 73, a lot of the ewr 73 flying is trans cons and Caribbean so you would still see a majority of longer flights. Not quite like the 756 but way better than regional flying. Good luck and see you in April!

MasterOfPuppets 02-22-2015 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by socalflyboy (Post 1829571)
We're still hiring F/O's? Why?

So I was a CA for a total of 3 weeks before I was hired at United. And 2 entire months before I started class. Didn't even consolidate. So what does that make me? Qualified? or Unqualifed to swing your gear for the next 10 years?

pilot64golfer 02-22-2015 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by C11DCA (Post 1829770)
What's wrong with hiring F/O's?

Per the description, they have 8+ years of regional experience. Not exactly "unqualified" or "newbies" as you seem to suggest. Being a Captain doesn't automatically make one a better pilot or candidate.

DC

The job we are hiring them for is to be an FO. Seems like they are more than qualified to be FOs.

MasterOfPuppets 02-22-2015 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Pro2nd (Post 1829677)
We were told that we would be on reserve on the 756 for much longer than the 737 and a320 and that hiring on the 756 was basically done for that fleet at the end of March through at least the end of the year.

Bases and getting out west was a big factor for some.

Being able to make more money on the 73 and 320 was also a big factor.

The seat lock was what others, including myself would have preferred not to have.

If they stop hiring in the 756 in April they are going to be hurting bad. IAD 737 base ramp up is going to take a bunch and so will IAD 777.

Although I heard a rumor that they will be combining the 756/76T this summer, earlier than they planned. They would be slightly over staffed if they put EWR together

Pro2nd 02-22-2015 11:47 AM

late in 2015 is the word around the school house for the combined fleet.

Pro2nd 02-22-2015 11:55 AM

That would be great if iad took 756 ewr guys. I hope they keep hiring on the 756 for a long time. I need to get some seniority! Would be great to get towards the top of the reserves by the holidays and a line by second year pay! I'm not getting my hopes up though.

Dave Fitzgerald 02-22-2015 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by bigboeings (Post 1829637)
Why does the 756 go so junior?

Good reasons. Shrinking fleet, chaos in the scheduling, no one knows if or when management will ever get their act together and decide what the fleet plan is--it changes often.

A bunch of really senior people on it will never move off unless they get a bump. Little to no movement--BAT fiasco, and bumps in certain domiciles.

And.....the pay isn't that different than the guppy. So why be stuck with reserve for a log time when you can have drastically better QOL quickly on the guppy? :rolleyes:

LivinTheDream28 02-22-2015 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 1829881)
Good reasons. Shrinking fleet, chaos in the scheduling, no one knows if or when management will ever get their act together and decide what the fleet plan is--it changes often.

A bunch of really senior people on it will never move off unless they get a bump. Little to no movement--BAT fiasco, and bumps in certain domiciles.

And.....the pay isn't that different than the guppy. So why be stuck with reserve for a log time when you can have drastically better QOL quickly on the guppy? :rolleyes:

Go for QOL (base) and quickest senority progression IMO. For FOs, the 757, A320, and 737-8 and -9 all pay the same. A 80+ hour line is much better than forever reserve unless of course you live in base.


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