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Short Bus Drive 02-22-2015 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by LivinTheDream28 (Post 1830007)
Go for QOL (base) and quickest senority progression IMO. For FOs, the 757, A320, and 737-8 and -9 all pay the same. A 80+ hour line is much better than forever reserve unless of course you live in base.

They DO NOT pay the same!
Sorry but one of my pet peeves.
Yes, hourly they do, but you have to take into account "blended rates", and international ove3rr rides in pay and per diem...
Even just sittin at home, I make more than an A320 pilot getting a line in EWR.

pilot64golfer 02-22-2015 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 1830047)
They DO NOT pay the same!
Sorry but one of my pet peeves.
Yes, hourly they do, but you have to take into account "blended rates", and international ove3rr rides in pay and per diem...
Even just sittin at home, I make more than an A320 pilot getting a line in EWR.

He was talking about hourly rate, not total pay. And the hourly rate is the same. The pay is basically the same, not enough of a difference to make a seniority move for most pilot just because on reserve the blended rate is higher then guppy or bus pay.

bigboeings 02-23-2015 03:16 AM

Thanks for the input guys. Wondering how reserve works? What is the call out time. I can drive to EWR in 3 hrs, so I don't mind being on reserve forever as long as I don't have to hang at the airport. I realize there are lots of variables to individuals defined QOL. Just trying to get.as much info ahead of time.

Short Bus Drive 02-23-2015 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by bigboeings (Post 1830112)
Thanks for the input guys. Wondering how reserve works? What is the call out time. I can drive to EWR in 3 hrs, so I don't mind being on reserve forever as long as I don't have to hang at the airport. I realize there are lots of variables to individuals defined QOL. Just trying to get.as much info ahead of time.

Call out to DEPARTURE time is 13 hours on long call.
2.5 hours for SHOWTIME if on short call.
They need to give you a 10 or 12 hour heads (depending on time of day) if they are going to convert long to short call.

Pro2nd 02-23-2015 06:25 AM

I was under the impression from talking to a lot of pilots, as well as seeing what my wife who is a 73 line holder makes, that a line holder, on the 73 at least, (I assume the Airbus is the same) that doesn't mind working 90+ hours will make significantly more than a 756 FO on reserve when calculated at the same year pay. I was also told most 756 trips don't exceed the the min day credit. I don't think reserve 756 guys break guarantee very often do they?

MasterOfPuppets 02-23-2015 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Pro2nd (Post 1830184)
I was under the impression from talking to a lot of pilots, as well as seeing what my wife who is a 73 line holder makes, that a line holder, on the 73 at least, (I assume the Airbus is the same) that doesn't mind working 90+ hours will make significantly more than a 756 FO on reserve when calculated at the same year pay. I was also told most 756 trips don't exceed the the min day credit. I don't think reserve 756 guys break guarantee very often do they?

We get blended rate on reserve plus international override. So in EWR where 75% of our flying is international we make more an hour, and in EWR Reserves break guarantee every month. Although Jan and Feb had tons of reserves and low flying so it was tougher.

Hilltopper89 02-23-2015 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Pro2nd (Post 1830184)
I was under the impression from talking to a lot of pilots, as well as seeing what my wife who is a 73 line holder makes, that a line holder, on the 73 at least, (I assume the Airbus is the same) that doesn't mind working 90+ hours will make significantly more than a 756 FO on reserve when calculated at the same year pay. I was also told most 756 trips don't exceed the the min day credit. I don't think reserve 756 guys break guarantee very often do they?

I can't speak for 756. I would imagine reserve 73 overall pays less. As a 73 line holder I'm consistently between 90 and 100 hrs pay per month since December.

Pro2nd 02-23-2015 11:46 AM

I guess my point is more geared towards new hires. You don't get a blended rate on first year pay and you definitely won't be getting off reserve in your first year on the 756. (Likely several years) Therefore a 73 new hire will get off reserve after 5-6 months and have the ability to work 100 hours. Airbus guys are off reserve in 1-2 months I hear. Therefore a first year pilot based in ewr has the ability to make a lot more on the 737 and Airbus than one on the 756 due to mainly getting off reserve much sooner.

Dragon7 02-24-2015 04:59 AM

Bus lines are about 10 hours a month less credit than 73 lines for FOs.

ugleeual 02-24-2015 06:37 AM

I would bid NB fleets unless you like sitting reserve and fly mostly bunkie on the 76T or 756 out of EWR and never touching the yoke. I'd recommend taking the 737 or 320 and ride it out for 2 years then bid your preferred aircraft if you don't like the NB fleet...


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