No pilots involved in interview process?
02-17-2015 | 06:34 PM
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I wonder if those LUA Captains were new to the Guppy?
Volumes have been written about just how crappy the transition course is. It's been overwhelmingly negative. I say, if they're new to the plane, cut them some slack and offer some productive input. Instead, you're talking trash and polishing your LCA creds here on a public forum. I find that nauseating and in very poor taste.
Volumes have been written about just how crappy the transition course is. It's been overwhelmingly negative. I say, if they're new to the plane, cut them some slack and offer some productive input. Instead, you're talking trash and polishing your LCA creds here on a public forum. I find that nauseating and in very poor taste.
02-17-2015 | 07:32 PM
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Mitch...I don't get it. You are a junior captain in EWR. Do I understand you correctly that you've recently had FOs that were previously captains at LUAL? Something doesn't add up.
02-17-2015 | 08:13 PM
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While hiring shouldn't be done by pilots with access moving their buds to the top of the pile (full disclosure... that's how I... and I'd imagine many others here we're hired) there's no substitute for strong recommendations from people who have actually worked with a pilot. What HR has done is provide what they profess to be a scientific process (Hogan test... AYKM?) when actually there is no substitute for long term observance in the very position we're hiring for. The interview should just be to verify we want to hire someone who has already proven, through recommendations and resume, they are the right person for the job and the Hogan needs to go.
I agree, it's not apples to apples, 121 flying is different and the learning curve will be steep for months, but telling someone who was selected and succeeded through a much more intensive and thorough process than that of the airlines they need to go jerk gear on an RJ for seasoning after having just served their country for a decade seems kind of silly to me when fighters to airlines was the norm for decades.
I agree, it's not apples to apples, 121 flying is different and the learning curve will be steep for months, but telling someone who was selected and succeeded through a much more intensive and thorough process than that of the airlines they need to go jerk gear on an RJ for seasoning after having just served their country for a decade seems kind of silly to me when fighters to airlines was the norm for decades.
02-18-2015 | 05:49 AM
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02-18-2015 | 05:51 AM
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According to the Navy, the most dangerous pilots are low time pilots (duh). The second most dangerous pilots are high total time, low time in type.
02-18-2015 | 06:18 AM
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02-18-2015 | 06:46 AM
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Most of the time habits are good. But sometimes the opposite is true.
02-18-2015 | 07:30 AM
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Was wondering that also.
HR has a place in the hiring process.. but why not have that HR person also be a pilot? Out of 12000 pilots, there are probably a handful who have degrees that would fit the HR build.
As far as the "Hogan Test"... I'll just think back to the Delta Psych who ended up offing himself.
I've "heard" that some of the guys that have failed the Hogan Test are guys with good military backgrounds. Makes you wonder about that. And how many Commuter pilots have failed it yet continue to move "United" passengers on their Express flight?
Any FFDO's fail it?
It would be funny to let current hires take the test to see how we fit in.. then again, it would probably scare the $hi+ out of HR!
Motch
PS> Would also be funny to see HR and those who decided to implement the Hogan test, take the test themselves!
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