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MasterOfPuppets 04-30-2015 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 1871429)
Thought we had 777 and 787 captain bids in feb.

I stand corrected 15-07 had 35 777 CA bids. That barely covers the retirements were going to have on that fleet between now and SEP 1st.

SpecialTracking 04-30-2015 04:58 PM

Any -400 Captains retiring?

krudawg 04-30-2015 06:42 PM

I heard between now and the end of 2016, 37 400 Captains to retire. But remember, United is going to park 400's and with the 777 swap for the 787, they could be planning on reducing airframes concurrently with retirements.

SpecialTracking 04-30-2015 07:02 PM

It was a rhetorical question. Yes they might bleed the fleet staffing via aircraft reductions, but you'd think one of the most senior seats would generate some vacancies.

Dave Fitzgerald 04-30-2015 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1871850)
It was a rhetorical question. Yes they might bleed the fleet staffing via aircraft reductions, but you'd think one of the most senior seats would generate some vacancies.

Yes, fortunately, I think, we have new people running manpower instead of the guys that closed ORD 400 base.

Probe 04-30-2015 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 1871206)
Probe, FMLA's a different animal than MIL LV. Even so, MIL LV would require threading a fairly narrow needle. And there was no cheating on MIL LV; I was required to give a copy of my DD214 when I returned in 2008 (accepted recall in 2006 but stayed on MIL LV for as long as I could).

Unless one had applied to return to active duty, the rules were restrictive on how many days you could spend on active duty. It was initially less than 180 days/yr, but that moved to 3 yrs out of 4 on a rolling calendar. If one wasn't back on active duty (just doing Guard/Reserve bumming), it would have been hard to not return on property in 2006-2009 unless you were hired in 2001 or so. Especially since most of us Guard/Reserve bums had already burned a lot of our rolling calendar days while on furlough.

I have flown with too many that pulled it off. I went threw lCAL new hire class 2 years ago with a couple, and met a few others during the same time. I just did my PC with another. None of them flew a United airplane since before 9/11.

Andy 05-01-2015 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1871917)
I have flown with too many that pulled it off. I went threw lCAL new hire class 2 years ago with a couple, and met a few others during the same time. I just did my PC with another. None of them flew a United airplane since before 9/11.

IIRC, there was a 5 year cumulative limit on mil lv in C2K, which would be compliant with Federal law. Our current 12-D-1 is a bit more generous, allowing up to 6 years MLOA after all furloughed pilots were offered recall.

It's possible, but of all of my MLOA buddies (and I know quite a few), I don't know any who were on extended MLOA prior to 9/11. Under C2K, staying on extended military orders was a pretty big pay hit past year 2.

SpecialTracking 05-01-2015 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 1871874)
Yes, fortunately, I think, we have new people running manpower instead of the guys that closed ORD 400 base.

Oh Lordy, does that mean the 400 reliability is going to decrease in ORD?

Dave Fitzgerald 05-01-2015 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1871946)
Oh Lordy, does that mean the 400 reliability is going to decrease in ORD?

Possibly? Look into my crystal ball....:D

24/48 05-01-2015 08:37 AM

It wouldn't surprise me to see a surplus bid for IAH 737 CA, followed by a vacancy bid for IAH 320 CA.


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