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Old 12-03-2015 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Couple things.

Is pass travel contractual?

Unless the bylaws have been changed, new hires on probation cannot vote.
Pass travel is company benefit , they control it. Pass travel is not in the UPA other than travel to/from training.

New hires less than 1 year won't be able to vote as you point out.
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Old 12-04-2015 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Rumor (only) that the AIP restores pay longevity for UAL furlugheees to match the pay longevity that previously furloughed CAL pilots already received per the main body of the UPA. (And thus the consternation about LOA25.)

Will the CAL pilots get their seniority restored?
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Old 12-04-2015 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
Will the CAL pilots get their seniority restored?
Are you talking about the seniority for vacation and travel? AFAIK they have the seniority that was in place from the CAL contract. Nothing to do with LOA 25, but I agree EVERYONE should be treated the same with regards to what seniority date is used for everything.
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Old 12-04-2015 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
Will the CAL pilots get their seniority restored?
Date of Hire ????
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Old 12-05-2015 | 08:15 PM
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I guess if one group gets a carve out every group out there gets a carve out.

Are we still talking about 1978 hires? You mean when the STU's were wearing go-go boots and the gate agents had pimp hats and we were all wearing bellbottoms at the layover?


The Joint Collective Bargaining agreement was suppose to take care of all that stuff. That was when we had our most leverage.
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Old 12-05-2015 | 08:22 PM
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How about the retirees getting their seniority restored?
Now, that's what I'm talkin about.
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Old 12-06-2015 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Outsider
How about the retirees getting their seniority restored?
Now, that's what I'm talkin about.
Get a family bible.
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Old 12-06-2015 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
I guess if one group gets a carve out every group out there gets a carve out.

Are we still talking about 1978 hires? You mean when the STU's were wearing go-go boots and the gate agents had pimp hats and we were all wearing bellbottoms at the layover?


The Joint Collective Bargaining agreement was suppose to take care of all that stuff. That was when we had our most leverage.

How did we have leverage with the jcba?
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Old 12-06-2015 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Get a family bible.
Nice one.
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Old 12-06-2015 | 08:02 AM
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While I don't understand your response, I'm fairly certain its derogatory.
Is there some specific reason you (and others it appears) would look down upon those who have gone before you.
I'm pretty sure you are disrespecting your own future here.
Does that make sense?
ps I am in fact old and retired in case you thought I was being sarcastic, I wasn't.
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