MEC Vote On Contract Extension TA
12-22-2015 | 05:56 AM
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These anonymous forums always have the most informed opinions!
12-22-2015 | 06:01 AM
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I'm not trying to be snarky here but how are we supposed to communicate to our reps that we want it to go to membership ratification if we supposedly haven't even seen it?
The union has come out and said that the leaks are wrong. Should I call my rep and say "I want you to vote yes on this thing and I have no idea what it is". Ok that last comment had some sarcasm.
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The union has come out and said that the leaks are wrong. Should I call my rep and say "I want you to vote yes on this thing and I have no idea what it is". Ok that last comment had some sarcasm.
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Several reps have confirmed verbally what is contained in the TA.
12-22-2015 | 06:04 AM
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OK we get it that you want the money.
Question for you and those that share your opinion: What if the MEC has Board confidential info that they can't share with the membership. And what if that information has something to do with diluting our leverage for future negotiations to fix the wrongs in the current contract.
Would you like a vote on a contract extension without that Board Confidential information? OR would you like your Reps that have that information to protect the pilots and turn down the TA based on their Board Confidential information?
Isn't that really why we paid for the UCH Board Seat?
Question for you and those that share your opinion: What if the MEC has Board confidential info that they can't share with the membership. And what if that information has something to do with diluting our leverage for future negotiations to fix the wrongs in the current contract.
Would you like a vote on a contract extension without that Board Confidential information? OR would you like your Reps that have that information to protect the pilots and turn down the TA based on their Board Confidential information?
Isn't that really why we paid for the UCH Board Seat?
12-22-2015 | 06:18 AM
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All things in life entail some risk.
Buying a car, getting married, having children, selling a home, playing poker, or which airline to work for---they all carry the possibility of failure, success, or the nagging question of "could I have done better?"
It's all gambling. And you can do as much research as is possible, but in the end, you have to go with your gut instinct, and your personal level of risk-taking.
So too is this TA. It might be the best we can do, and it might not. We might kick ourselves if it passes, and we might wail and lament if it doesn't.
Personally, I hope we at least get to look at it. But if/when it comes down to a vote:
It's still gambling.
Buying a car, getting married, having children, selling a home, playing poker, or which airline to work for---they all carry the possibility of failure, success, or the nagging question of "could I have done better?"
It's all gambling. And you can do as much research as is possible, but in the end, you have to go with your gut instinct, and your personal level of risk-taking.
So too is this TA. It might be the best we can do, and it might not. We might kick ourselves if it passes, and we might wail and lament if it doesn't.
Personally, I hope we at least get to look at it. But if/when it comes down to a vote:
It's still gambling.
12-22-2015 | 06:21 AM
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From: Captain
All things in life entail some risk.
Buying a car, getting married, having children, selling a home, playing poker, or which airline to work for---they all carry the possibility of failure, success, or the nagging question of "could I have done better?"
It's all gambling. And you can do as much research as is possible, but in the end, you have to go with your gut instinct, and your personal level of risk-taking.
So too is this TA. It might be the best we can do, and it might not. We might kick ourselves if it passes, and we might wail and lament if it doesn't.
Personally, I hope we at least get to look at it. But if/when it comes down to a vote:
It's still gambling.
Buying a car, getting married, having children, selling a home, playing poker, or which airline to work for---they all carry the possibility of failure, success, or the nagging question of "could I have done better?"
It's all gambling. And you can do as much research as is possible, but in the end, you have to go with your gut instinct, and your personal level of risk-taking.
So too is this TA. It might be the best we can do, and it might not. We might kick ourselves if it passes, and we might wail and lament if it doesn't.
Personally, I hope we at least get to look at it. But if/when it comes down to a vote:
It's still gambling.
72% yes 28% no, if it gets to Membership Ratification
M2c
12-22-2015 | 06:35 AM
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From: 787
Unfortunantly I think your right considering if you ask any pilot out there what's being negotiated they cant come up with anything except saying 13% raise with a big smile on their face.
Well finally get to walk through the terminal with our chests out because we make the more money than every single other pilot in the USA! We can finally look down on DL and AA pilots, and when we look across the ramp and see a widget or an American flag tail we can say in our heads I'm making more money than that poor SOB!!!
So let's do this! let's get it done! Vote it in, celebrate with our first pay check. Show our friends how big it is! Go buy something expensive! Then in 3 months when the shine of that quarter fades we can go back to *****ing about how our work rules suck and they need to be fixed.......in the next contract of course.......which is already starting out 2 years late!
Merry Christmas, Happy new year, holy **** where's the Tylenol. I'm done talking about this damn TA we'll see y'all next year
Well finally get to walk through the terminal with our chests out because we make the more money than every single other pilot in the USA! We can finally look down on DL and AA pilots, and when we look across the ramp and see a widget or an American flag tail we can say in our heads I'm making more money than that poor SOB!!!
So let's do this! let's get it done! Vote it in, celebrate with our first pay check. Show our friends how big it is! Go buy something expensive! Then in 3 months when the shine of that quarter fades we can go back to *****ing about how our work rules suck and they need to be fixed.......in the next contract of course.......which is already starting out 2 years late!
Merry Christmas, Happy new year, holy **** where's the Tylenol. I'm done talking about this damn TA we'll see y'all next year
12-22-2015 | 07:53 AM
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From: Seat 0A
I hope you have less than 5 years left here. For me, the best that could happen is this will pass. For people with over 5 years, they are losong out on a once in a career opportunity.
12-22-2015 | 08:29 AM
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From: Old, retired, healthy, debt-free, liquid
Section 6 is not where you want to be with a very split group. In a few short years this pilot group will be much younger and more junior than today...no telling what the inclinations of the pilot group will look like then.
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