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Old 07-15-2016 | 09:59 AM
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I think that it'll barely pass because of the fact that they have 2 yr. FAs from sCAL taking flying from sUAL FAs. Also, there are 25yr. FAs from sUAL that are on reserve and their contemporaries from CAL are holding a line very quickly after training.
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Old 07-15-2016 | 10:11 AM
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Anecdotal sampling of the sUA FAs I've flown with is 50/50, but all seem to think it'll pass.
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Old 07-15-2016 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Anecdotal sampling of the sUA FAs I've flown with is 50/50, but all seem to think it'll pass.
50/50 LUAL and the TA will FAIL - and the games will continue and they won't know why.
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Old 07-15-2016 | 04:03 PM
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Talk with the sUAL FAs in LAX, SFO, and IAD that have lost a ton of flying to sCAL FAs who are drastically junior. They are a resounding yes.

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Old 07-15-2016 | 04:07 PM
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I cannot imagine any LUAL flight attendant voting against this TA... this is there one opportunity to get the ISL moving along and regaining their seniority and ability to bid the long haul trips that LCAL flight attendants are grabbing now. If this fails the LCAL flight attendants will drag it on forever since they have a huge advantage flying lines they are way too junior to hold in a post ISL seniority list.
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Old 07-15-2016 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
I cannot imagine any LUAL flight attendant voting against this TA... this is there one opportunity to get the ISL moving along and regaining their seniority and ability to bid the long haul trips that LCAL flight attendants are grabbing now. If this fails the LCAL flight attendants will drag it on forever since they have a huge advantage flying lines they are way too junior to hold in a post ISL seniority list.

Couple of reasons I heard for no votes were no signing bonus and more out of pocket for medical (that's nationwide, but never mind...)

One did relay a story about a run-in she had with the LCAL FA trying to start their own in house Union who said she would vote for it, because she needs the raise, but would continue trying to form their own Union. Can't make this stuff up.
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Old 07-15-2016 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Couple of reasons I heard for no votes were no signing bonus and more out of pocket for medical (that's nationwide, but never mind...)

One did relay a story about a run-in she had with the LCAL FA trying to start their own in house Union who said she would vote for it, because she needs the raise, but would continue trying to form their own Union. Can't make this stuff up.
They want the raise, but not the integration. They want the benefits of the merger without the downsides of it as well. Whatever they say their reasons are its really only to stop the SLI from happening.
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Old 07-16-2016 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
I cannot imagine any LUAL flight attendant voting against this TA... this is there one opportunity to get the ISL moving along and regaining their seniority and ability to bid the long haul trips that LCAL flight attendants are grabbing now. If this fails the LCAL flight attendants will drag it on forever since they have a huge advantage flying lines they are way too junior to hold in a post ISL seniority list.
They are not "grabbing" anything. They show up to work, work their trip, and go home.

Perhaps they want to get the best possible contract instead of rubber stamping a subpar deal just to get a list... Imagine that.
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Old 07-16-2016 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Knotcher
They are not "grabbing" anything. They show up to work, work their trip, and go home.

Perhaps they want to get the best possible contract instead of rubber stamping a subpar deal just to get a list... Imagine that.
LMAO. Yeah that's it. Nothing at all to do with them going from layovers in CDG to sitting reserve.
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Old 07-16-2016 | 08:22 AM
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The LUAL F/A's understand that this may not be a good deal/contract but they understand it's not much different than what the LUAL pilots did to stop the shenanigans of JP and JS. Look at us now - we are just one happy family.
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