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tailwheel48 08-10-2016 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2178035)
Pilot Job: Korean Air B747-400 First Officers - (2016 Interviews)
Hold a ATPL and have completed Secondary School OR Hold a CPL and hold a College or University Degree/Diploma

Thank you.

bigfatdaddy 08-10-2016 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by tailwheel48 (Post 2178054)
Thank you.

So go to Korean.....problem solved

Probe 08-10-2016 10:06 PM

In 40 years, probably less than a couple of hundred pilots have ever been hired by US majors without a 4 year degree, including FDX and UPS.

The few wankers without 4 year degrees might very well get lucky in the next couple of years as we are short of pilots. Welcome aboard. Historically you would be sucking hind ****y in the US for a job at the majors.

You are not a worse pilot without a degree. You are not a worse person without a degree. You ARE a 5th rate, not a 2nd rate, job applicant for the job.

For decades, if you want to get a job at a major in the US, you get a degree. Period. Exclamation point. If not, welcome to the Kalitta Air.

Yak02 08-10-2016 10:56 PM

Now that is the most uneducated comment made by anyone except AllenAllert. You have just lost any credibility I thought you had. Is this a Trump Joke?

I realize your a mid-90's hire, but dude, where were you in the Eighties?

suckit 08-11-2016 04:13 AM

Hold a ATPL and have completed Secondary School OR (posted by probe)

Secondary school and an ATPL = Job overseas

Definition of secondary school is: A secondary school, often referred to as a high school or a senior high school, is a school which provides secondary education, between the ages of 11 and 19 depending on location, after primary school and before higher education.

They DO NOT REQUIRE 4 YR DEGREES!

tailwheel48 08-11-2016 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2178212)
In 40 years, probably less than a couple of hundred pilots have ever been hired by US majors without a 4 year degree, including FDX and UPS.

The few wankers without 4 year degrees might very well get lucky in the next couple of years as we are short of pilots. Welcome aboard. Historically you would be sucking hind ****y in the US for a job at the majors.

You are not a worse pilot without a degree. You are not a worse person without a degree. You ARE a 5th rate, not a 2nd rate, job applicant for the job.

For decades, if you want to get a job at a major in the US, you get a degree. Period. Exclamation point. If not, welcome to the Kalitta Air.

Little sensitive it seems. I suppose the thousands of pilots flying for major airlines around the world - without a college degree - are fifth rate!?!

Or maybe you just realized that you wasted four years and thousands of dollars!

Consuela 08-11-2016 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by tailwheel48 (Post 2178272)
Little sensitive it seems. I suppose the thousands of pilots flying for major airlines around the world - without a college degree - are fifth rate!?!

Or maybe you just realized that you wasted four years and thousands of dollars!

For crying out loud...IF YOU WANT A JOB AT A US MAJOR AIRLINE, YOU NEED A DEGREE. Always has been, and probably always will.

Your opinion doesn't matter, because you aren't in charge of the hiring. If you don't have one; apply and maybe you'll get lucky. Otherwise, apply overseas and enjoy flying with your 1st rate 250 hr pilots without a college education.

tailwheel48 08-11-2016 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Consuela (Post 2178309)
For crying out loud...IF YOU WANT A JOB AT A US MAJOR AIRLINE, YOU NEED A DEGREE. Always has been, and probably always will.

Your opinion doesn't matter, because you aren't in charge of the hiring. If you don't have one; apply and maybe you'll get lucky. Otherwise, apply overseas and enjoy flying with your 1st rate 250 hr pilots without a college education.

I will reiterate, having a degree looks great on the resume if you're applying to a US airline. But it doesn't amount to a hill of beans if you're applying for a foreign airline.

After Vietnam, you couldn't get hired by a US Major without a Masters Degree, 20/20 vision and a whole host of other long-forgotten but ridiculous criteria. Simply because there were way more applicants than vacancies.

If I were advising someone about getting hired, I would absolutely recommend getting a degree. But, for someone with limited resources, I would suggest getting the ratings first and the education later.

SUX4U 08-11-2016 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by tailwheel48 (Post 2178328)
I will reiterate, having a degree looks great on the resume if you're applying to a US airline. But it doesn't amount to a hill of beans if you're applying for a foreign airline.

After Vietnam, you couldn't get hired by a US Major without a Masters Degree, 20/20 vision and a whole host of other long-forgotten but ridiculous criteria. Simply because there were way more applicants than vacancies.

If I were advising someone about getting hired, I would absolutely recommend getting a degree. But, for someone with limited resources, I would suggest getting the ratings first and the education later.


I think your advice of ratings first then education is questionable and I respectfully disagree. All of my friends that took your advised approach are all fighting to get called by anyone besides Spirit or Frontier. Then there are those that are finally stepping up to do the 4 year. Many often started flying while I was still in college.

Now I am closing in on 2 years at United and they have another 14-16 months of online college to balance between flying and home life. I'm glad I knocked mine out while I was young, single and didn't have to work a grueling 90 hour line at a regional. That's my story and I know it's not a one size fits all, but food for thought for anyone still young and debating how to get hired with a legacy airline.


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