Minimum day?
10-28-2016 | 10:27 AM
#21
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From: EWR 777 FO
"Two weeks vacation for a reserve puke like myself pays 86 hours minimum for a 30 day month. A big plus up from 73 hour guarantee."
Days off for vacation are the most important thing for me. It takes you using two vacation weeks to get any real days off that month. I only get two weeks a year, so I need to spread them out. One week of vacation only gets me an additional 4 days off a month. That is an absolute joke. At a minimum I want to get 7 extra days off when using a week of vacation. I don't really care how we make that happen, but one way may be to credit more per vacation day.
"Training over 5 days pays 3.0 for EVERY day..even off days. That's 90 hours for a month of transition/upgrade, meaning you'll likely take a pay cut when you're finished and go back to the line."
This is a good point. I was more referring to the CQ pay, but I should have specified.
Days off for vacation are the most important thing for me. It takes you using two vacation weeks to get any real days off that month. I only get two weeks a year, so I need to spread them out. One week of vacation only gets me an additional 4 days off a month. That is an absolute joke. At a minimum I want to get 7 extra days off when using a week of vacation. I don't really care how we make that happen, but one way may be to credit more per vacation day.
"Training over 5 days pays 3.0 for EVERY day..even off days. That's 90 hours for a month of transition/upgrade, meaning you'll likely take a pay cut when you're finished and go back to the line."
This is a good point. I was more referring to the CQ pay, but I should have specified.
10-28-2016 | 10:32 AM
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First, don't get me wrong... I'm grateful and blessed to be working at my dream airline.
But there is one thing that's bugged me, which seems like a major contractual deficit, a problem that didn't even exist at my regional airline.
If there is a 2 day trip, with 1 hour of pay on day 1, and 10 hours of pay on day 2, the trip pays 11 hours. Isn't day 1 supposed to be worth 5 hours at a minimum, regardless of how hard you work the next day?
At my regional, this trip would pay 15 hours. I've noticed a lot of cases like this in the airbus, and I'm just wondering if that's how the contract has always been written. Seems like we're leaving a lot on the table there, and just because I work hard on day 2 doesn't mean my day 1 isn't worth 5 hours of pay.
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But there is one thing that's bugged me, which seems like a major contractual deficit, a problem that didn't even exist at my regional airline.
If there is a 2 day trip, with 1 hour of pay on day 1, and 10 hours of pay on day 2, the trip pays 11 hours. Isn't day 1 supposed to be worth 5 hours at a minimum, regardless of how hard you work the next day?
At my regional, this trip would pay 15 hours. I've noticed a lot of cases like this in the airbus, and I'm just wondering if that's how the contract has always been written. Seems like we're leaving a lot on the table there, and just because I work hard on day 2 doesn't mean my day 1 isn't worth 5 hours of pay.
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Bumping min day to 6+ would be a better solution because we have a lot of 20hr 4 days on the narrow body stuff.
10-28-2016 | 02:15 PM
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Not sure about DAL, but I think they have 5/day. You're way off on UPS. They have no minimum daily, just 4.0 per duty period with a 3.75/1 duty rig. And that's in their brand new contract. You poo-poo 5/day, but that was a BIG win for us and cost quite a bit of negotiating capital.
10-28-2016 | 05:39 PM
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10-28-2016 | 07:12 PM
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From: EWR 777 FO
Not sure about DAL, but I think they have 5/day. You're way off on UPS. They have no minimum daily, just 4.0 per duty period with a 3.75/1 duty rig. And that's in their brand new contract. You poo-poo 5/day, but that was a BIG win for us and cost quite a bit of negotiating capital.
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