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RJDio 11-23-2016 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 2248902)
Actually, Continental had a few that turned 60 before the age changed, were put in the training dept. per a relationship with Fred Abbot or Fred Stankovich and then came back to the line after the age changed with their old seniority. So, maybe Allen is hoping to be grouped together with those folks.

The same happened at Skywest. A few guys that stayed in the training department got to come back at their old seniority.

AllenAllert 11-23-2016 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 2248902)
Actually, Continental had a few that turned 60 before the age changed, were put in the training dept. per a relationship with Fred Abbot or Fred Stankovich and then came back to the line after the age changed with their old seniority. So, maybe Allen is hoping to be grouped together with those folks.

No - really don't want to be associated with anything CAL. I know there are some good guys coming from CAL but why didn't they standup against Fred and friends and the union representives of that time. If you don't see what ALPA has done post merger, you've been hiding in a cave. It's safe to come out - just ask your buddy JP.

ReadyRsv 11-23-2016 04:09 PM

Ugh! 70 year old Captains. Sorry, not a fan. 65 is great, especially for those who lost everything after 9/11 but geeze. Hang it up! Anyway, wasn't this thread about a vacancy bid? Congrats to the 75+ new Captains!

sleeves 11-23-2016 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by AllenAllert (Post 2248931)
No - really don't want to be associated with anything CAL. I know there are some good guys coming from CAL but why didn't they standup against Fred and friends and the union representives of that time. If you don't see what ALPA has done post merger, you've been hiding in a cave. It's safe to come out - just ask your buddy JP.

It was grieved and the grevience was lost. They stayed and were known as friends of Fred. I think most are dead now. I guess you can't change that date.

Macdacpilot 11-23-2016 04:33 PM

What "re-gonkulation" occurred after the last snap-shot and the final being posted that caused seeming everyone to move back 3 spaces to the right in system seniority? Admittedly I have not looked at past bids to see if this happens every time or not.

AllenAllert 11-23-2016 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 2248943)
It was grieved and the grevience was lost. They stayed and were known as friends of Fred. I think most are dead now. I guess you can't change that date.

They were your friends - I won't argue your past - It belongs to you.

sleeves 11-23-2016 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by AllenAllert (Post 2248953)
They were your friends - I won't argue your past - It belongs to you.

Lol, my name ain't Fred and I am not trying to act like them and find a back room reach around deal to stay on the list. You own that.

AllenAllert 11-23-2016 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 2248958)
Lol, my name ain't Fred and I am not trying to act like them and find a back room reach around deal to stay on the list. You own that.

Those were your backroom deals and reach around agreements. Never happened at LUAL and will not happen at post merger UAL. You miss those days don't you - own up - come out and set yourself free. <<LOL>>

Think about it and have a Happy Thanksgiving.

pilot772 11-23-2016 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by AllenAllert (Post 2248726)
Under the to many rules/regulation promise, tHRUMP plans to remove the age limitation for pilots all together. Says medical standards already cover this.

Oscar says it would be good for United. Since United is hiring age 60+ pilots off the street and many of the pilots forced to retire by the age restriction would like to return, we plan to allow them to return in the status they retired - says it would be a win for everyone.

Guess you'll add another ring to the 3 ringer with the Profit Sharing Payment - congratulation!

Just out of curiosity where has Trump stated this position? Is there an article or a position paper where he is quoted with this position?

sleeves 11-23-2016 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by AllenAllert (Post 2248978)
Those were your backroom deals and reach around agreements. Never happened at LUAL and will not happen at post merger UAL. You miss those days don't you - own up - come out and set yourself free. <<LOL>>

Think about it and have a Happy Thanksgiving.

I am glad to hear that you will oppose guys finagling their way back if the age is ever changed.


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