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#142
Exactly! And it doesn't take 20+ years here to see that.
But what exactly does "growing a pair" entail for the company? What risks are there that is keeping them from doing so? Or perhaps better put, what rewards are there in not doing so? There's more to it. Agree or disagree with the decision, more than anything, the why is what most want to know.
But what exactly does "growing a pair" entail for the company? What risks are there that is keeping them from doing so? Or perhaps better put, what rewards are there in not doing so? There's more to it. Agree or disagree with the decision, more than anything, the why is what most want to know.
#143
Guppy reserve EWR
Joined: Feb 2013
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From: 737 FO
#144
. No one knows why they do what they do, and we are all convinced their long term plan expires every 5 min. You will most likely bid the bus to get to DEN when your lock is up and they will decide to beef up the 737 in DEN at the expense of the 320 and you will be stuck on the outside again. That's why people seem cynical and say relax because it's all just a guess.
#145
Guppy reserve EWR
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From: 737 FO
And that my friend brings us full circle as to why you were criticized at the beginning.
. No one knows why they do what they do, and we are all convinced their long term plan expires every 5 min. You will most likely bid the bus to get to DEN when your lock is up and they will decide to beef up the 737 in DEN at the expense of the 320 and you will be stuck on the outside again. That's why people seem cynical and say relax because it's all just a guess.
. No one knows why they do what they do, and we are all convinced their long term plan expires every 5 min. You will most likely bid the bus to get to DEN when your lock is up and they will decide to beef up the 737 in DEN at the expense of the 320 and you will be stuck on the outside again. That's why people seem cynical and say relax because it's all just a guess.Anyway, thanks for the discussion. It does help explain things.
#146
Gets Weekends Off
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I can't comment on CLE but to permanently displace IAH and damage it (give up flying to SWA and other carriers) would be ludicrous. The economy as everyone knows in Houston relies heavily on O&G and it is cycical. The O&G industry will rebound, as it has many times, and IAH will be back to profitability in the near future. It's a big hub for us, big maintenance center, and a true gateway to the south. To displace off all the fleets now would be ridiculous. Shrink for now, understandable. Damage it permanently, no. Very shortsighted move.
#147
I can't comment on CLE but to permanently displace IAH and damage it (give up flying to SWA and other carriers) would be ludicrous. The economy as everyone knows in Houston relies heavily on O&G and it is cycical. The O&G industry will rebound, as it has many times, and IAH will be back to profitability in the near future. It's a big hub for us, big maintenance center, and a true gateway to the south. To displace off all the fleets now would be ridiculous. Shrink for now, understandable. Damage it permanently, no. Very shortsighted move.
#148
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Uhh no. Not necessary. Much to expensive and in the end would probably not solve anything. Training costs would be astronomical and would cost the company 10 fold what any logistical savings would be worth. I'm glad you don't run staffing!
#149
But instead of taking the the time to explain it to a new guy, we're instead quick to say quit whining? Naw, this company and the pilots here are a lot better than that. In my short time here I've seen mostly good things. It's the negativity that, no matter how new I am, I'll call out every time. I know a lot has happened over the years to cause negative feelings, but if you choose to be miserable, you're not pulling me down with you.
Anyway, thanks for the discussion. It does help explain things.
Anyway, thanks for the discussion. It does help explain things.
Be glad we are talking about our hats and which airplane is better 757 vs 737, because the day we aren't is the day bad things have happened. These are our problems??? Sign me up!!!
#150
The company is tired of it because they screwed it up from the beginning and now they are just saying screw it and running 50 CAs fat on the 737 in IAH. How much does that cost?


