"tool" times ten


each group wants more than the other group. (retired, senior, 18 yr double furlough, new hires)

i fly with new fo's who are earning now what i was earning as a 25 yr captain under the bk contract.

baseball is a typical pilot tool.

Us new hires have to fly way more advanced 700, 800 and 900 series guppies. Much tougher than those old 200 and 300 models.

[emoji12] I kid, I kid.

I didn't read his post like that. I read it as ALPA should have fought tooth and nail to keep age 60 but they didn't. Many of us spent 5 lost years while the WB CAs kept collecting a max paycheck.

I agree with him. I don't want any changes. It absolutely sucked for the old hats getting screwed out of the A plan, but we ALL lost our A plan.

OK, so back to this 17-03v vacancy thing...
Looking at the snapshot from yesterday, I've got a question for the WB guys. Why are the 777 FO slots going senior to the 787 FO slots?
The 777 slots in the snapshot are going from 6000 seniority to 10,000.
The 787 slots go from 7800 to 11,700. So there's about an 1800 seniority shift, or two years seniority, mas o menos.
Any theories on this from some SFO wide body guys?
QOL is better? more efficient trips on the triple? Why the difference here?

Just my guess, but junior 787 flying in SFO increasingly sucks. You won't avoid a 5-6 day China trip esp in summer once you get past 50%. Can't trade out of them and those trips get old fast. Senior stuff is some of best in system, but other then occasional bunkie seat you won't get it.

That's my take also.

2 things you don't want to miss in China: 1.) The tour of the Great Wall. 2.) Your flight outta there.

SFO 787 has largely become the China shuttle, and many astute practitioners can't come up with a good reason to justify going there. It's not quality of life, sanitation, air quality, personal hygiene, food safety, or clean water.

Exactly why I won't bid 787. I also suspect maybe guys are prepositioning themselves for the 300 ER. Plus everyone on the first snapshot, at a glance, is above the gline.

I think the ALPA rank and file were quite vocal, but if my memory is correct, it was ALPA President, Continental Captain John Prater who led the charge. Any assertion that "it was going to happen anyway, and ALPA just wanted a seat at the table" is resignation. That was within 18 months of him also announcing that we had to put "the scab issue" behind us. How proud we all were.

So many people bailed off the 777 when the flying went to hel and the fence dropped on the 787 that the triple got really junior. So pilots are. Is bidding in to better seniority than they have on the 787.

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