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12-14-2016 | 05:40 AM
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Has anyone been hired with 3 or 4 checkride failures from back in commercial and CFI training but 0 training problems in last 12 years with several Jet 121 types and jet PIC? Im just finishing degree and would love to come to United next year but afraid these failures from 2005 might hurt. Anyone with similar experience?
Yes they have. Just be honest about it. Recent history outweighs past history.
12-14-2016 | 12:23 PM
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Not true
Because it sounded an awfully lot like you were trying to rationalize not putting the failures on your application.
Check ride failures is what they are looking for. A stage check in an approved training program is not an FAA failure.
If everyone had to do that, anyone with military flight school would have to put every ride failure through training. Then no one would get hired.
FAA checks, yes, stage checks in a school, don't worry about it. But as stated above, don't even try to lie or omit stuff. If you are caught, it's game over, and never another interview. They really don't like dishonesty--and I have to agree.
If it's FAA, put it down, let the process decide.
Check ride failures is what they are looking for. A stage check in an approved training program is not an FAA failure.
If everyone had to do that, anyone with military flight school would have to put every ride failure through training. Then no one would get hired.
FAA checks, yes, stage checks in a school, don't worry about it. But as stated above, don't even try to lie or omit stuff. If you are caught, it's game over, and never another interview. They really don't like dishonesty--and I have to agree.
If it's FAA, put it down, let the process decide.
Dave, Many of the military guys I have flown with have never failed a ride. Just saying'. Myself and 5 other guys from my squadron have been hired in the last 2 years and the sum total for failed rides (including training) is zero.
12-14-2016 | 12:51 PM
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12-14-2016 | 01:10 PM
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Progress checks during UPT are not checkrides... FAA and the airlines only care about military Form 8 checkrides (USAF) or their sister service equivalents (Aircraft Qual and/or Instrument Checkrides)... don't bother discussing UPT training stuff other Than your final Nav Check before graduation and getting your wings.
12-15-2016 | 08:23 AM
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Example, My table mate failed the formation check because he was on the wing and lead busted the area by an half mile, that's gage error front seat-back seat. They got him too, yes it was bogus, but still an individual ride bust--which should have no bearing on interviews.
12-15-2016 | 11:00 AM
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Progress checks during UPT are not checkrides... FAA and the airlines only care about military Form 8 checkrides (USAF) or their sister service equivalents (Aircraft Qual and/or Instrument Checkrides)... don't bother discussing UPT training stuff other Than your final Nav Check before graduation and getting your wings.
OP, it doesn't matter how many checkrides you've failed. People who take more rides have more failures. It doesn't matter if you lie either. It probably wont affect your odds much, unless you're boldy stupid. But take some advice. When asked how many checkrides you've failed you need a number, a name, and a story for each one. Don't say "three maybe four". It sounds like you have a poor memory, don't care, don't learn, don't keep records. With that answer I'd imagine the type of guy who keeps a 10 inch layer of empty cheetos bags and soda bottles in the passenger seat of his car.
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