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12-20-2016 | 07:24 AM
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There are a lot of good guys who have been sitting in the right seat for 8-9 years at places like ExpressJet. Do you overlook them? In some cases ExpressJet etc. didn't hire someone and they got a job at a Mesa, Trans States etc. and upgraded in 18 months because said company hired the rejects. I think those factors need to be taken into account.
But lets look at the real world for a sec.
If you have 10 pilots who show up/apply for 2 jobs, where do you start your criteria and what do you put on the bottom?
PIC time? 121 PIC time? College degree? Veteran status? Training issues/busts? Criminal convictions? Numerous jobs? etc..
Something has got to be weighed heavily, while other items weighed less.
Again, I find it surprising that with the pool of qualified pilots out there, someone with 2 DUI's would be hired over someone without.
BTW- Should that 8-9 year FO at ExpressJet be hired over that 10-11 year Captain at ExpressJet?
Unfortunately, the world isn't fair. Just got to hope that your timing is good (or better than the other guy/gal) and that you have a little luck~ Too often, too many thinks are out of your control.
Always
Motch
PS) Will add that every NewHire I have met has been great. But it was surprising when I met a few of them who didn't upgrade at their Regional. Including one who told me that she didn't because of QoL.
Good luck to them all.. Good Luck to all those applying~
12-20-2016 | 08:31 AM
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From: B756 FO
he wrote "my friend is at United with two DUI's"
maybe I am right that his friend got them after he was hired
or, maybe you are right that his friend was hired with the DUI's
but the language does not tell us
so I still think it was incorrect to jump to the conclusion that his friend got hired with two DUI's
maybe I am right that his friend got them after he was hired
or, maybe you are right that his friend was hired with the DUI's
but the language does not tell us
so I still think it was incorrect to jump to the conclusion that his friend got hired with two DUI's
He is a very good guy that made some incredibly stupid decisions. He was able to finally get his act straight and show he learned his lessons and was able to support others who have substance abuse issues.
Regardless of what we feel about people's scared back grounds, clearly United felt he would be a good addition.
12-20-2016 | 09:17 AM
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12-20-2016 | 11:43 AM
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Bus, if it helps I personally know a guy that was hired with 2 DUI's. He had his last one maybe 5-6 years or so ago. Not 100% sure about that time frame but it wasn't real recent before he was hired.
He is a very good guy that made some incredibly stupid decisions. He was able to finally get his act straight and show he learned his lessons and was able to support others who have substance abuse issues.
Regardless of what we feel about people's scared back grounds, clearly United felt he would be a good addition.
He is a very good guy that made some incredibly stupid decisions. He was able to finally get his act straight and show he learned his lessons and was able to support others who have substance abuse issues.
Regardless of what we feel about people's scared back grounds, clearly United felt he would be a good addition.
I wasn't really trying to wade into the debate about the airline's hiring criteria..
i was just jumping into the forum about the one guy's post. i think ppl maybe read way more into his words than i saw there
that's all
cheers !
12-20-2016 | 11:51 AM
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From: B756 FO
Cheers to you and enjoy the holidays!
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