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12-26-2016 | 12:02 PM

#81

oldmako

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From: The GF of FUPM

It's a fluid industry and change is constant. Plans are cast in oatmeal. The only things that don't change are stupidity and avarice.

12-26-2016 | 12:57 PM

#82

HuggyU2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newKnow

APC Quicktakes says that UAL is planning on hiring 450 next year. Is that down from previous forecasts?

Bill Kennedy said ~650 pilots to be hired in 2017. He made that statement on 8 November.
I don't know what APC Quicktakes is, but I'd go with Bill's number.

12-26-2016 | 01:50 PM

#83

Winston

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From: Skeptical

Quote:

Originally Posted by newKnow

APC Quicktakes says that UAL is planning on hiring 450 next year. Is that down from previous forecasts? And if so, why? What's going on?

This is what's going on:

Everything else is subject to revision.

12-26-2016 | 04:19 PM

#84

whereRwe

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From: B777 Left

Where are the new hires being based and what a/c?

12-26-2016 | 04:25 PM

#85

newKnow

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From: 765-A

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmako

It's a fluid industry and change is constant. Plans are cast in oatmeal. The only things that don't change are stupidity and avarice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuggyU2

Bill Kennedy said ~650 pilots to be hired in 2017. He made that statement on 8 November.
I don't know what APC Quicktakes is, but I'd go with Bill's number.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winston

This is what's going on:

Everything else is subject to revision.

Ok. Just making sure there wasn't some dire economic report coming out that was changing the big wigs forecasts, or something.

Thanks!

12-26-2016 | 04:26 PM

#86

Airhoss

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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by newKnow

Hey fellas,

APC Quicktakes says that UAL is planning on hiring 450 next year. Is that down from previous forecasts? And if so, why? What's going on?

But but but but........Oscar said by 2018 we were gonna have 17,000 pilots and 900 air frames on the property? Wa'happen?

12-26-2016 | 04:37 PM

#87

newKnow

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Airhoss

But but but but........Oscar said by 2018 we were gonna have 17,000 pilots and 900 air frames on the property? Wa'happen?

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a Delta guy and we've got a bid closing tomorrow. I don't want to make a mistake and be stuck on the bottom of a list for years if there is information out there to warn me now.

I always seem to figure stuff out, AFTER the fact.

12-26-2016 | 05:39 PM

#88

Tank21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by whereRwe

Where are the new hires being based and what a/c?

Mixture of -737's and -320's and based in SFO and EWR initially.

12-26-2016 | 06:35 PM

#89

Airhoss

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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.

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Originally Posted by newKnow

Story of my life bro............

12-27-2016 | 04:22 AM

#90

PA Slammer

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From: 737 FO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winston

This is what's going on:

Everything else is subject to revision.

So, what exactly does that imply? Those retirement numbers haven't changed from the last few hiring "projections", yet the hiring projections still decrease. And the total end number "rumors" of 17000 to 18500 by 2020 are still out there.

I'd like to see the company come out with a better explanation of why the hiring has deceased (TK issues?) and how we're going to end with 5000-6000 more pilot's (buy a another airline).