They ended up overbackfilling IAH 756 FO by 2. Line holders have been flying low 70's hour lines. I hope this means we are getting more flying.

No 756 base shrank significantly this bid but they added 68 pilots in Denver. I think the overstaffing on this fleet will continue.

Almost a third of the DEN award was TI's. Regular line pukes will probably have at least 1 trip bought every month. All this to save the cost of 6 hotel rooms a night in Denver. Wish I would have moved to Denver in 2014...

Hi everyone,

It looks like ~ 15% of the unfilled vacancies from 1810v are 756 on the west coast, perhaps from some folks bidding off it after their 2 year seat lock expired due to longer reserve times/QOL. I assume not too much has changed in regard to the 756 fleet since this thread was last commented on 8 months ago, but wanted to double check...

1. Is reserve on the 756 still running 1 to 1.5ish years in SFO and MUCH much greater than the 2 year seat lock every where else?

2. I’ve searched for “Visiting reserve” and other key words but haven’t found much about GLOBAL RESERVE. Are all the 756 pilots on global reserve system wide or is G.R primarily for the EWR folks who are doing a lot of transatlantic. I understand it is 1-6 day off block and then your other reserve days/days off can be adjusted on the fly? How does it work in a nutshell?

3. There was an article that had the average age of the 757-200s at 21.3 years and perhaps they’d serve ~25+ years which would take it to 2023. Is there any chatter on when the fleet will retire and is the fleet plan staying steady or starting to shrink since last year?

4. In your experience with shrinking/retiring fleet at UAL, do most of the senior folks stay on the aircraft until the end with the bottom guys getting displaced off as aircraft leave? If you’re bumped off the bottom, are you displaced to train into whatever aircraft you can hold going forward?

Thanks for your time and replies in advance. I appreciate it.

Stabilized

No chatter that I've seen. But, I count 9 757s built in 1993 or earlier and 15 more built by 1995. 21 767s built in 1993 or earlier. All the rest of the 756 fleet was built in 1997 or later, so a fair amount of life left there. As our 787-10s and Max-9/10s hit the line in force I can't imagine keeping all of the oldest 756 aircraft around, I guess that 1-2 dozen will get retired after the summer of 2019... but a fair number of the oldest 767s have been modded for Polaris so I could be 100% wrong. Weird to mod such old aircraft, but I'd like to think there is some logic to it even if there probably isn't.

We are getting three 767-300s from Hawaiian. Acceptance is supposedly in a month or two, but not hitting the line until 2019.

I’ve heard they are three additionals, two additionals plus a fill-in for one to be retired, and I’ve heard they are ALL replacement aircraft. Who knows.

The reason for keeping the fleet: they fill a need that can’t otherwise be met. This might be aircraft performance metrics, new aircraft manufacturing backlog, or capital expenditure reluctance.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see the P.S. airplanes go...they are the oldest, non-ETOPS, and used only for coast-to-coast domestic. Other airplanes can fill that niche. But that is only 15 jets.

I think the 756 fleet as a whole will soldier-on until we see a 797, more 787s, or maybe a 321/330 NEO.

1. Pretty much
2. That’s pretty much it in a nutshell
3. No chatter, staying steady
4. It will be a long time before this fleet is parked. When they do start to park the 756, they will chip away at the small 756 base’s(like DEN, LAX) flying first until there isn’t enough flying for that plane to remain economically viable at that base. Then it is closed in one displacement (like lax 777). I think a huge 756 base like EWR will be open for another 10-15 years. That plane serves UA well there with nothing to replace it on the horizon. In a larger 756 base they will do a few rounds of displacements and the junior pilots will be gone first. Junior pilots on it don’t have much bidding power so senior pilots wont voluntarily displace for many junior pilots. Who knows, all the Max’s we’re getting may whittle down EWR 756 pretty small by the time they decide to park the fleet. Still probably not for a long time.

SFO is basic Reserve? (Can’t remember what domestic reserve is called).

A base has to have global flying to be bid under global reserve rules. SFO 756 at this time has no global flying

You got it right. Basic and Global are the terms.

Lee

Right.

So on the SFO 756, a reserve pilot is just a basic &$@?%.

EWR787 is opening this fall, 787-10’s are showing up along with more 789’s.

If I were a betting man, I’d expect to see a lot of that 756 flying in EWR moving over and those airplanes redeployed.

I just emailed PC and he said the 763 & 764 airplanes will remain in EWR. There are no plans to redeploy or redistribute those airplanes around the system. I literally just emailed him about this subject 4 days ago.