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Old 01-07-2018, 06:45 PM
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PHL is supposedly getting some new ramp space for 747s and ANC flights to relieve SDF.
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Old 01-07-2018, 07:12 PM
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PHL is supposedly getting some new ramp space for 747s and ANC flights to relieve SDF.
Didnt they just finish building the new ramp
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:52 PM
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Anyone have any insight as to why the drop in the first class didn't have 747 slots in it?
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Old 01-08-2018, 03:14 AM
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louisville metro would pave churchill downs if ups told them to. I'm sure they can find a place for them.
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
Anyone have any insight as to why the drop in the first class didn't have 747 slots in it?
They don’t know how to train them unfortunately. Not sure if Miami sim is ready, new instructors not qualified for another few months either. Not enough ipa instructors, or ioe instructors for this many guys. It’s just going to be a crazy year trying to hire this many people into the 74.
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Vito View Post
1800 RVR,
Flew into KLCK Sat morning, large ramp with tons of space, 12,000 ft runways, looks like a player for another rumor!
Congrats on the upgrade!
Thanks buddy!

Rickenbacker is an interesting possibility, thus the continual rumors...
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocket Bob View Post
They don’t know how to train them unfortunately. Not sure if Miami sim is ready, new instructors not qualified for another few months either. Not enough ipa instructors, or ioe instructors for this many guys. It’s just going to be a crazy year trying to hire this many people into the 74.
Its called contract training. They know how. But they would have to pay an outside company to do sim training. Then all company instructors can do OE.

Its not the best solution, sometimes the training can be less than what one gets in-house. And yes, its costs.

The point is, if they WANTED to hire and staff 1000 in a year, there are ways to make it happen. But it costs money, more than that "free training" they are doing now.
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Old 01-10-2018, 06:31 PM
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in 1994 UPS hired somewhere around 25% of the total pilot group in one year. The ability is there but not the will.
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew View Post
Its called contract training. They know how. But they would have to pay an outside company to do sim training. Then all company instructors can do OE.

Its not the best solution, sometimes the training can be less than what one gets in-house. And yes, its costs.

The point is, if they WANTED to hire and staff 1000 in a year, there are ways to make it happen. But it costs money, more than that "free training" they are doing now.
It isn't quite that simple anymore. The MIA sim was finally certified by the FAA for use this week. The requirements to add a simulator to a company list are much more stringent today than they were in 2007. Using the NASA sim at Moffett Field or the United sim in Denver as was done 10 years ago is not possible today. Therefore the available sims are limited to MIA and ANC. Sims that would match the required visual model, malfunctions, and lesson plan programming, and have available sim time, are nonexistent.

All available Boeing instructors that were willing to do the training have been contracted. Even though they are qualified 747 Boeing instructors, they are not qualified to do UPS 747 training. Unlike the initial training done in 2007, now the initial qual is AQP. FAA, AQPM etc. requires the Boeing instructors to complete the training footprint, observe the footprint, then be observed teaching the footprint. Only then are they qualified to instruct the qual syllabus.

Each 747 crew member trained and qualified as a line crew just increases the need for sim availability to train CQ. At some point in the near future the ANC sim will be saturated with CQ training. As such, there will likely be a need for three UPS 747 sims eventually.

But these are good problems to have...
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Didnt they just finish building the new ramp
Yes. I was told it was for the 747 flights from Asia. I was told this by a van driver (not kidding) who said customs was standing in the way because they needed time to spool up their manpower. I ran it past our scope guys and they said no plans for 74 in phl yet.
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