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Old 12-05-2018 | 01:40 PM
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How many monthly credit hours can a UPS pilot expect? Are you capped at the line guarantee, or do pilots regularly exceed 100+ credit hours? Just trying to compare pay - apples to apples. Thanks
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Old 12-05-2018 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by flakester
How many monthly credit hours can a UPS pilot expect? Are you capped at the line guarantee, or do pilots regularly exceed 100+ credit hours? Just trying to compare pay - apples to apples. Thanks
75 hour guarantee (13 pay periods). On the bus 75-85 hours a pay period is normal. 204 hour cap per bid period.
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Old 12-05-2018 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by osupilot
75 hour guarantee (13 pay periods). On the bus 75-85 hours a pay period is normal. 204 hour cap per bid period.
Just to clarify for the outsiders,

a "bid period" is 56 days, which is two 28 day "pay periods"

An apples to apples comparison isn't exact, but that closely resembles a 104 hour monthly cap. Actually more than 104 since we have 13 months in a UPS pay calendar ... FWIW

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Old 12-05-2018 | 02:54 PM
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It’s a 208 hour cap in a 56 day bid period.

747 guys are averaging in the 90s while domestic guys are closer to guarantee. Plenty of domestic pilots maxing out their pay though. It’s just probably easier to do in the international side.
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Old 12-05-2018 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by osupilot
75 hour guarantee (13 pay periods).

For outsiders this equals an 81 hour per month guarantee.




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Old 12-06-2018 | 06:53 AM
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I think that the general consensus is to expect 1000 x hourly rate at UPS to estimate annual salary. However, international is higher by probably 20%. None of this includes extra flying beyond your normal schedule. If you are able and choose to accept junior manning calls from scheduling you can make a lot more. I have some friends who are F/Os making CA money. The current ANC 747 pilot shortage is a completely different discussion. I wouldn't plan on that for future earning potential.
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Old 12-06-2018 | 10:20 PM
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Apparently the monthly cap is optional if you're in Anchorage.
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Old 12-07-2018 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
Apparently the monthly cap is optional if you're in Anchorage.
For some individuals. ..and some very new to the fleet/domicile. A tiny minority of otherwise a great group of aviators.

Then again, wonder if that’s why so many senior 76 folks are now bidding over to the 74?? Just sayin’.

Don’t lump all ‘Anchorage pilots’ together...

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Old 12-08-2018 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by whalesurfer
For some individuals. ..and some very new to the fleet/domicile. A tiny minority of otherwise a great group of aviators.

Then again, wonder if that’s why so many senior 76 folks are now bidding over to the 74?? Just sayin’.

Don’t lump all ‘Anchorage pilots’ together...

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It's been optional for ANC. Some took advantage. Non anc trips were still denied if they exceeded caps. Just the way it's been, I hope it's changed, there's no excuse now.
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Old 12-09-2018 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by McBoeingBus
I think that the general consensus is to expect 1000 x hourly rate at UPS to estimate annual salary. However, international is higher by probably 20%. None of this includes extra flying beyond your normal schedule. If you are able and choose to accept junior manning calls from scheduling you can make a lot more. I have some friends who are F/Os making CA money. The current ANC 747 pilot shortage is a completely different discussion. I wouldn't plan on that for future earning potential.
Agree, adding 3 zeros to the hourly rate is a fairly conservative guestimate for annual earnings, which can vary greatly.

A classmate of mine has grossed $80K more than me as an ANC FO. We both bid RSV on international fleets, but he routinely gets extended and does the occasional JA trip. I rarely get extended, and never fly OT or JA. I work a lot less for the money.
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