Drunk UPS Captain arrested in cologne Germany
05-25-2019, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by howardhughes8
Absolutely ZERO tolerance at UPS. No alcohol, even sealed, in your bags. If you jumpseat on another carrier, assume you have to abide by their policy.
He asked if you're deadheading ie comm on another airline can you bring alcohol...The answer is Yes you can as long as you're not on ups property or ups plane you can carry alcohol in your suitcase just make sure you're not utilizing the KCM ..
05-25-2019, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by howardhughes8
This statement is so stereotypical and uninformed. Just because you made one bad decision during one drinking day doesn’t mean you have a disease. Heck, 90% of pilots have a disease based on this comment. ANYONE can have a “fun” night/day that can lead to a bit too much without doing it on a regular basis. So unless you know this person, assuming he/she has a “disease” is just plain dumb. It’s like the person who gets a DUI because he simply had ONE night of too much to drink, and got caught in an unfortunate situation.
with all due respect, you are the one who is uninformed.
as professional pilots, we all know that our careers (and freedom) are at risk if you push the limits, which are clear, and very low.
If you have a "fun" night and fail to call in sick, then you have made a life changing error in judgement.
The FAA and criminal justice authorities have ZERO tolerance for these errors.
If a "night of fun" is worth more than your career, reputation, and freedom, then you likely have a serious problem.
Get help before you get caught.
05-25-2019, 06:30 PM
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Question,
If the pilot who blew the .16 and is currently arrested, volunteers to enter the HIMs program, can he/she keep their job at UPS?
If the pilot who blew the .16 and is currently arrested, volunteers to enter the HIMs program, can he/she keep their job at UPS?
05-25-2019, 06:36 PM
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Drunk UPS Captain arrested in cologne Germany
Originally Posted by navigatro
with all due respect, you are the one who is uninformed.
as professional pilots, we all know that our careers (and freedom) are at risk if you push the limits, which are clear, and very low.
If you have a "fun" night and fail to call in sick, then you have made a life changing error in judgement.
The FAA and criminal justice authorities have ZERO tolerance for these errors.
If a "night of fun" is worth more than your career, reputation, and freedom, then you likely have a serious problem.
Get help before you get caught.
as professional pilots, we all know that our careers (and freedom) are at risk if you push the limits, which are clear, and very low.
If you have a "fun" night and fail to call in sick, then you have made a life changing error in judgement.
The FAA and criminal justice authorities have ZERO tolerance for these errors.
If a "night of fun" is worth more than your career, reputation, and freedom, then you likely have a serious problem.
Get help before you get caught.
Why do people keep saying “get help”? Is EVERY pilot who has a drink or two beyond his/her limit a person who needs “help”? This is an ignorant statement, pure and simple. In case you haven’t noticed, not every pilot is a drunk and most definitely the vast majority of pilots are responsible folks as you “claim”.
05-25-2019, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Vito
Question,
If the pilot who blew the .16 and is currently arrested, volunteers to enter the HIMs program, can he/she keep their job at UPS?
If the pilot who blew the .16 and is currently arrested, volunteers to enter the HIMs program, can he/she keep their job at UPS?
05-25-2019, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by howardhughes8
This statement is so stereotypical and uninformed. Just because you made one bad decision during one drinking day doesn’t mean you have a disease. Heck, 90% of pilots have a disease based on this comment. ANYONE can have a “fun” night/day that can lead to a bit too much without doing it on a regular basis. So unless you know this person, assuming he/she has a “disease” is just plain dumb. It’s like the person who gets a DUI because he simply had ONE night of too much to drink, and got caught in an unfortunate situation.
Unfortunately for the person involved, if the incident is factual, UPS can’t do anything about it. Heck, we are probably the only “airline” that you cannot carry ANY alcohol in your bag because ONE person made a scene we all have to wear diapers. From a 100+ year company you would think they take action on an individual basis, not at UPS. So a pilot goes to Argentina, wants to bring back a nice SEALED bottle of wine, no can do. You will get fired if caught
Unfortunately for the person involved, if the incident is factual, UPS can’t do anything about it. Heck, we are probably the only “airline” that you cannot carry ANY alcohol in your bag because ONE person made a scene we all have to wear diapers. From a 100+ year company you would think they take action on an individual basis, not at UPS. So a pilot goes to Argentina, wants to bring back a nice SEALED bottle of wine, no can do. You will get fired if caught
05-25-2019, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Burton78
Wow.. I rarely tote booze around, but why on Earth is this a "Fireable" offense? Definitely bizarre.
05-26-2019, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by howardhughes8
Why do people keep saying “get help”? Is EVERY pilot who has a drink or two beyond his/her limit a person who needs “help”? This is an ignorant statement, pure and simple. In case you haven’t noticed, not every pilot is a drunk and most definitely the vast majority of pilots are responsible folks as you “claim”.
if you have a drink or 2 beyond your limit and are willing to risk everything, then perhaps you should take a look in the mirror, especially if it a routine occurrence.
Alcoholism is not just the drinking, it is how it affects (or could affect) your life.
The reason people keep saying this is that pilots KEEP getting in trouble.
Not sure why you are so defensive about this.
05-26-2019, 05:53 AM
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How much does one have to drink 8 hours prior to show to blow a .16 at showtime? That may be possible but to suggest that someone had one or two past their limit the night before might be stretching it.
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