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Old 08-24-2021, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Disco Stu View Post
Yes, but showing respect and empathy towards someone else does not mean you should be forced to change who you are or what you do. That, in my opinion, is where everything started going South..... someone got offended by something and now poof... you can't do that any more, you can't say that any more, you cant believe that anymore, you have to do what the offended says or you're a bad person. Sorry, one persons "offense" does not dictate the rights of someone else.
I agree 100 percent.
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Old 08-28-2021, 04:26 PM
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Yes, but showing respect and empathy towards someone else does not mean you should be forced to change who you are or what you do. That, in my opinion, is where everything started going South..... someone got offended by something and now poof... you can't do that any more, you can't say that any more, you cant believe that anymore, you have to do what the offended says or you're a bad person. Sorry, one persons "offense" does not dictate the rights of someone else.
Now we’re on point, very well said. In the past the squeaky wheel got the attention but allegations, accusations and the blame game was rather mild with thicker skin roaming the earth vs now the increased thin walls of skin/illusion. Now, everything squeaks whines and complains and is given too much attention to how someone or something has offended it, them or whomever. Thank you social media, etc. Leave it too our Politics/Government/Inner overwhelming self worth to proclaim Racist this, Nazi that, Cancel this, Highlight that. It is what it is until it isn’t and that’s when actual lines will/must be drawn. History proves there is a breaking point in most cases, but then again the current society has never been this soft historically and blessed with a flip of the switch and being able to get whatever we want as it’s always 70 degrees if we like and snacky.
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Old 08-28-2021, 09:28 PM
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So if I understand this correctly, you guys have to wear masks in the cockpit?
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Old 08-29-2021, 03:29 AM
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So if I understand this correctly, you guys have to wear masks in the cockpit?

UPS pilots are not required to wear facial coverings when acting as operating crew.
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Old 08-30-2021, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Tango Uniform View Post
When this all started, we were told it was isolated to Asia. It shows up in the states, we shut down incoming and outgoing passenger flights to China. It spreads quickly in the States. We shut down the country for 7 days to “flatten the curve”. We extend it because it didn’t “flatten the curve” to 14 days, then a month. We are told to “social distance”. We are told to mask up. Fauci suggested at one point to double mask up. Fauci then says mask don’t work. Vaccine is released. This is supposed to get rid of Covid….
Science claimed all these things over the last year and a half will get rid of Covid.
In regards to this ^, Science suggested the best course of action from its POV but much of the US population consistently resisted its recommendations (masking efforts, social distancing restrictions, lockdown, vaccines, etc.). We thought we knew better and acted accordingly. Now some want to besmirch science because the current mess we are in was arrived at largely in part by not following science’s advice? Also, we can’t expect science to be omnipotent.

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Old 08-30-2021, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FTv3 View Post
In regards to this ^, Science suggested the best course of action from its POV but much of the US population consistently resisted its recommendations (masking efforts, social distancing restrictions, lockdown, vaccines, etc.). We thought we knew better and acted accordingly. Now some want to besmirch science because the current mess we are in was arrived at largely in part by not following science’s advice? Also, we can’t expect science to be omnipotent.

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How have masks kept most of the world in check? Everything I read is most of the world is getting worse as well, including Australia which finally threw in the towel for their zero case tolerance, now gonna allow increase in cases as a trade off for getting some sort of normality.

This will not end, the world simply has to learn and adapt without killing society as we know it. World herd immunity, the shot and maybe the virus mutating and killing itself are the only things that will slow or stop this thing.
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Old 08-31-2021, 04:50 AM
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I wasn’t arguing specifics nor a better outcome had we acted differently. Ill simplify my point:

1. A young kid hears his parent’s parental advice over the years. Kid mostly ignores it. Kid turns out bad. Kid blames parents. ???

2. Kid takes his parent’s advice. Kid turns out bad. Kid blames parents. Justified.

3. Kid doesn’t take parent’s advice because he “knows better.” Kid turns out bad. Kid blames parents. ??
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Old 08-31-2021, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FTv3 View Post
In regards to this ^, Science suggested the best course of action from its POV but much of the US population consistently resisted its recommendations (masking efforts, social distancing restrictions, lockdown, vaccines, etc.). We thought we knew better and acted accordingly. Now some want to besmirch science because the current mess we are in was arrived at largely in part by not following science’s advice? Also, we can’t expect science to be omnipotent.

Thumbs up to the rest of your post.

When did we all start freaking out over "cases"? Don't we all have to get a "case" of COVID for us to reach the famed "herd immunity"? Cases do NOT equal deaths and running around forcing policies on people with the belief that they do is ridiculous. If cases did equal deaths, by my count, I would have moved up the list a ton this last year and change.
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Old 08-31-2021, 05:21 PM
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For all the .mil folks….just imagine if we had only known the absolute protection given by a flimsy piece of paper dangling loosely over your mouth. We could have gotten rid of gas masks, MOPP level 4, and yearly gas chamber training. Hell let’s call the mask MOPP level 1000!! We may have lugged all that crap around for years but at least now we can save some money by canceling your health insurance. Just wear the mask and your good!

I recommend you click through the NBC CBT slides a little slower next time. Then ask yourself why your mom taught you to cover your mouth when you sneeze. STRANGE! That’s exactly what a mask does, even when talking.

Or, think back to basic and imagine for a second a “basic”, cadet, midshipman whatever, and this guy/gal walking around sneezing and coughing without covering his/her mouth. That would get corrected quick, fast, and in a hurry. Hence masks…Not respirators or advanced filters, masks; a simple barrier to protect others.

The fact that people are still conflating the purpose 18 months in, is suprising.
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Old 08-31-2021, 05:51 PM
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I recommend you click through the NBC CBT slides a little slower next time. Then ask yourself why your mom taught you to cover your mouth when you sneeze. STRANGE! That’s exactly what a mask does, even when talking.

Or, think back to basic and imagine for a second a “basic”, cadet, midshipman whatever, and this guy/gal walking around sneezing and coughing without covering his/her mouth. That would get corrected quick, fast, and in a hurry. Hence masks…Not respirators or advanced filters, masks; a simple barrier to protect others.

The fact that people are still conflating the purpose 18 months in, is suprising.
i see someone skipped physics…I sincerely hope you are one of the lucky few who make it thru this whole thing
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