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Old 01-29-2022, 09:16 AM
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Trading a little sleep discomfort for the daily TSA gauntlet, passenger terminals, gate agents, and flight attendants is a decision that I am grateful to have had the opportunity to make. Not for everyone but I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Old 01-29-2022, 12:50 PM
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Trading a little sleep discomfort for the daily TSA gauntlet, passenger terminals, gate agents, and flight attendants is a decision that I am grateful to have had the opportunity to make. Not for everyone but I wouldn't have it any other way.
But but but they have day time flying and PBS!!!
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Old 01-29-2022, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownDoubles View Post
Trading a little sleep discomfort for the daily TSA gauntlet, passenger terminals, gate agents, and flight attendants is a decision that I am grateful to have had the opportunity to make. Not for everyone but I wouldn't have it any other way.
A little sleep discomfort, now that’s funny.
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Old 01-29-2022, 04:36 PM
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A little sleep discomfort, now that’s funny.
Agreed.

I wish it was true.
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Old 01-29-2022, 06:39 PM
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Old 01-29-2022, 06:39 PM
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But but but they have day time flying and PBS!!!
C’mon man! We have some day time flying and line bidding with lots of opportunities to conflict.
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Old 01-30-2022, 12:27 AM
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A little sleep discomfort, now that’s funny.
I guess that would depend on your seniority and ability to adjusting your sleep schedule. Like I said... not for everyone.
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Old 01-30-2022, 04:20 AM
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I guess that would depend on your seniority and ability to adjusting your sleep schedule. Like I said... not for everyone.
At what level of seniority does sleep disruption become a thing of the past?

At what level of seniority does sleep disruption become a thing of the past if you are a pro at adjusting your sleep schedule?
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Old 01-30-2022, 04:23 AM
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At what level of seniority does sleep disruption become a thing of the past?
IMO never, regardless of being domestic or international.

Domestic day flying can get close, but those can be long duty days with late duty-offs.

At what level of seniority does sleep disruption become a thing of the past if you are a pro at adjusting your sleep schedule?
See above. You can't eliminate sleep disruption, just mitigate the frequency and severity. Lots o' niches within our network for people to find what works best for *them*. For me, the smallest amount of sleep disruption was (gasp) morning turns, which probably puts me in the small minority of our pilot group.

Even when I drove a passenger RJ, sleep disruption was a thing...you either report really early, or you have the possibility of dutying off really late.

I was NEVER a night person when hired, but I had to adapt and figured out a way to do it. For people who cannot, this job (and others like it) will be hard. Night sort stuff had me caring about only three things: 1. sleep, 2. exercise, and 3. eating. I got where I was only eating 2 meals a day, but wasn't ever hungry...actually lost weight day sleeping on the road.
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IMO never, regardless of being domestic or international.

Domestic day flying can get close, but those can be long duty days with late duty-offs.



See above. You can't eliminate sleep disruption, just mitigate the frequency and severity. Lots o' niches within our network for people to find what works best for *them*. For me, the smallest amount of sleep disruption was (gasp) morning turns, which probably puts me in the small minority of our pilot group.

Even when I drove a passenger RJ, sleep disruption was a thing...you either report really early, or you have the possibility of dutying off really late.

I was NEVER a night person when hired, but I had to adapt and figured out a way to do it. For people who cannot, this job (and others like it) will be hard. Night sort stuff had me caring about only three things: 1. sleep, 2. exercise, and 3. eating. I got where I was only eating 2 meals a day, but wasn't ever hungry...actually lost weight day sleeping on the road.
Do most at UPS use sleep-aids like Melatonin or Ambien, while on the road to get adequate rest?

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