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Old 09-10-2022 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BApilot78
Yes I fully understand the UPS tpic requirement and agree it’s there for a good reason.
Hello, may I ask why you want to leave BA to come to the US to work?
I work in the US but I am in the process of getting my EASA to come back to Europe.
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Old 09-11-2022 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by doublebed
Yes on average 6-7 per class. United, Alaska, and Delta were represented in the last class.
How many years did these pilots spend at their legacy before they left for UPS? Have you heard of anyone leaving after 5+ years at their legacy?
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Old 09-11-2022 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by P Tang
How many years did these pilots spend at their legacy before they left for UPS? Have you heard of anyone leaving after 5+ years at their legacy?
3 year Delta
6 year Delta
14 year? Southwest
2 year UnitedThat's all I know of.
Hella.
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Old 09-11-2022 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheelsoff
🤌 Por qué?
Alot of what we do is night flying and it can be really awful to push yourself through a three legger starting at 10pm and finishing at 6am.

Sometimes I miss walking through the terminal, getting my Cuban coffe, do a Barranquilla turn and be don in the afternoon. I can easily understand why some would chose to go legacy. Yet I’m here.
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Old 09-12-2022 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Joachim
Alot of what we do is night flying and it can be really awful to push yourself through a three legger starting at 10pm and finishing at 6am.

Sometimes I miss walking through the terminal, getting my Cuban coffe, do a Barranquilla turn and be don in the afternoon. I can easily understand why some would chose to go legacy. Yet I’m here.
MOST of what we do is not night sort flying. With a single pay scale it’s likely there is a niche for everyone.
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Old 09-12-2022 | 05:49 AM
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The night sort flying is just one aspect. On the international side the problem becomes body clock flip flops and 24h layovers which many outsiders don’t realize is rough. I think on balance our flying is quite a bit more challenging sleep wise than the legacy type flying. For some that means a qol improvements at the passenger carriers.
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Old 09-12-2022 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Joachim
The night sort flying is just one aspect. On the international side the problem becomes body clock flip flops and 24h layovers which many outsiders don’t realize is rough. I think on balance our flying is quite a bit more challenging sleep wise than the legacy type flying. For some that means a qol improvements at the passenger carriers.
I agree, 24 hour overnights are the worst.
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Old 09-12-2022 | 09:48 PM
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B reserve on the domestic side is pretty nice. I haven't seen a hotel room or 2 AM since July. Don't commute.
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Old 09-12-2022 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by P Tang
How many years did these pilots spend at their legacy before they left for UPS? Have you heard of anyone leaving after 5+ years at their legacy?
I can't speak for UPS, but FedEx has hired numerous dudes in the last 30 years that have done 5+ years at legacies.
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Old 09-13-2022 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
I can't speak for UPS, but FedEx has hired numerous dudes in the last 30 years that have done 5+ years at legacies.
From the anecdotes I’m familiar with, most leave within the first few years. However, we have seen 6 year FOs from United and a 7 year Capt from Delta. Covid definitely spurred some of this. For the most part, the guys who do this we’re always targeting UPS and simply took the first great job offer at a legacy while they waited for UPS to call. I’m sure we have some guys doing the same thing in the other direction. Although, once UPS hooks you on the high pay, narrow body can be a tough pill to swallow.
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