Must be from that mumbling sound we keep hearing from that Bideneese dialect..

 

I think we can all agree that wocl flying sucks but it seems almost unavoidable if you’re a commuter. The am or pm turns seem slightly better for your body but are not great for commuters. Is the whale the way to go? You can’t flop clocks if you’re never anywhere long enough to get used to it?

 

777 at Purple vs Whale layovers at Brown being less may have something to do with a higher level of optimizer perhaps or maybe just customer base. Either way, doing your due diligence on how operations at various outfits may affect your life/lifestyle or health is in your court. Very good information provided by those flying the line at Brown. Whether its international, domestic, sort, etc., unless you have been thru it for some duration the only way is to try it and find out in the end if it works for you. Sounds like variety is offered so you have that going for you which is nice. On a side note as an ACMI flyer, I enjoy night and day or both types of flying with some very decent layovers. When it should be rough my only saving grace is the CPAP which does wonders specifically for me. Exercise is great along with eating right, but traveling to unique/great locations sometimes negates the correct method and I indulge in the local eateries. Like Boiler and others mentioned - be disciplined and the health aspect should be take care of itself. My other thought would be the 3 or 4 legs a night or day over and over again that would hurt me, while others would detest a long haul leg or two regardless of dozing for dollars. It’s in the eye of the beholder or as others have said a niche. Seniority is king, find your happy place.

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-dangers-of-night-shifts-how-night-workers-put-their-health-on-the-line_4793133.html

 

This is an interesting subject. Drilling down into the data is really important, and I suspect one will find support for their position, whatever it is.

This cited study found 60% of pilots were dead within 5 years of retiring…at 60! Really curious since just a few years later the retirement age was raised. Did it save hundreds of pilots’ lives?

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...324-story.html

ALPA cites another study that’s thankfully less grim, but it also had like 1% women and an even smaller percentage of nonwhite males among its approx 1,100 participants, so isn’t dispositive for some. It found higher incidences of skin cancer but better overall health in pilots than the general population.

Bottom line, seems like we must do what we must to stay healthy and active as long as possible, eat right, exercise, and stay positive. Good genes help but ultimately, we have to play the cards we are dealt. This reminds me of the challenges of statistics for things like this (30% increase in likelihood of heart attack) because, when it’s *your* heart attack, you’re 100% affected.

 

Usually when we grow up we realize our own abilities and experiences differ from others so we don’t go about projecting our personal realities as definitive. It’s great you find night flying easy. Others don’t, and not for lack of trying.

 

I don’t know if it takes years off your life…but it sure isn’t adding any

 

This guy was definitely a "If you don't want the vax no one's forcing you... All you have to do is put your family in the poor house... Easy decision" types.

 

It’s not the night flying that kills you. It’s the lack of sleep when you stay up to be social with others and flip your sleep schedule on your day off. When your sleep deprived it weakens your immune system. So either be a night owl and have no social life or one with other night owls some how. Depression from being alone will also grow some Daisies.


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UPS schedules can be challenging to maintain a healthy circadian rhythm. That was my #1 concern when deciding to accept a job here. I fly international 747 and have found, if I make it a priority, I can maintain a reasonable circadian rhythm. There are a ton of variables that will affect your schedule at UPS. Be flexible, figure out what you can handle and chase that lifestyle/schedule.

Some things I've done to maintain a healthy circadian rhythm at UPS:

I try to stay on Home time for my rhythm (eat, sleep, poop) even while traveling overseas. This won't work perfectly, but if you stay relatively close, it's easier on your body and easier to readjust when you get home.
Boiler said best earlier, make your health a priority when working (eating healthy, sleeping and getting a workout in) and it'll pay-off. There's food everywhere on these trips-just say no
If you treat every trip like a party, drinking and eating everything in sight, it'll catch up to you.
Nap, Nap, Nap, when able. Big benefit of the 74 lifestyle. A 3-4hr nap will do you wonders on an all-nighter.
Trade or post trips with show times that aren't favorable.
Alcohol is not your friend, it destroys your sleep quality and your health. If you wanna drink, do it at home and not on the road.

Having said all this, I've found this lifestyle to be very agreeable, although it takes some effort to make it so. I can't say this loud enough, LIVE IN DOMECILE if at all able. This alone will forgive 80% of the sins of this lifestyle.

Cheers-N48