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Old 07-14-2023, 08:58 AM
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Just posted, next bid period we’ll continue with the reduced guarantee lines and voluntary incentivized leaves of absence..so yeah, I’m new here but I don’t think we’d hire in this environment currently..maybe a realignment bid to replace the retired captains?
We have new 767s coming next year and presumably more MDs getting parked. This should drive a system bid to move folks where they are needed and replace retiring captains. Will it result in new vacancies? I think so, but only in small numbers.
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Old 07-14-2023, 09:30 AM
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We have new 767s coming next year and presumably more MDs getting parked. This should drive a system bid to move folks where they are needed and replace retiring captains. Will it result in new vacancies? I think so, but only in small numbers.
We’re adding nine 767s in 2023 and staffing them at 10 pilots per airframe. Don’t we staff the MD at eight pilots per plane? Either way, between the additional airframes and net pilots required to staff them, plus retirements, there will be seats to fill by the end of the year. I would guess the company has it on hold at the moment until this Teamsters agreement is reached. Then we’ll have to deal with them during our negotiations starting next fall.

At the ANC GMM, the EB said the company is forecasting the volume to increase over the next 12-18 months and then maintain. It won’t be Covid volume, but won’t be doom and gloom either, rather a shift to the new normal (until it changes again). We have been spoiled since 2018 when they’ve been hiring 200+ per year, the slowdown is making people anxious. With all the ‘94 hires and prior starting to reach 30+ years, there should be movement soon. The next few years will be interesting.
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Old 07-14-2023, 09:54 AM
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Is it a one for one replacement? Nine 767 replace nine MDs?
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Old 07-14-2023, 10:25 AM
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We’re adding nine 767s in 2023 and staffing them at 10 pilots per airframe. Don’t we staff the MD at eight pilots per plane? Either way, between the additional airframes and net pilots required to staff them, plus retirements, there will be seats to fill by the end of the year. I would guess the company has it on hold at the moment until this Teamsters agreement is reached. Then we’ll have to deal with them during our negotiations starting next fall.

At the ANC GMM, the EB said the company is forecasting the volume to increase over the next 12-18 months and then maintain. It won’t be Covid volume, but won’t be doom and gloom either, rather a shift to the new normal (until it changes again). We have been spoiled since 2018 when they’ve been hiring 200+ per year, the slowdown is making people anxious. With all the ‘94 hires and prior starting to reach 30+ years, there should be movement soon. The next few years will be interesting.
Volume might decrease if we go on strike.
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Old 07-14-2023, 11:27 AM
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Is it a one for one replacement? Nine 767 replace nine MDs?
In terms of volume, an MD carries more than a 767. 50% more? I don’t know exactly. We are scheduled to retire six MDs in 2023 and add nine additional 767s. Not a one for one replacement.
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Old 07-14-2023, 11:46 AM
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In terms of volume, an MD carries more than a 767. 50% more? I don’t know exactly. We are scheduled to retire six MDs in 2023 and add nine additional 767s. Not a one for one replacement.
True, but on the short domestic flights how full are the MDs?
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True, but on the short domestic flights how full are the MDs?
Beats me man, I don’t fly them. Maybe someone else can chime in.
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Old 07-14-2023, 03:30 PM
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We’re adding nine 767s in 2023 and staffing them at 10 pilots per airframe. Don’t we staff the MD at eight pilots per plane? Either way, between the additional airframes and net pilots required to staff them, plus retirements, there will be seats to fill by the end of the year. I would guess the company has it on hold at the moment until this Teamsters agreement is reached. Then we’ll have to deal with them during our negotiations starting next fall..

We won’t be dealing with the company for years. I would guess 2028 we will see any kind of agreement. We will be very low priority for the company to give us any kind of agreement for years to come.
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Old 07-14-2023, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mooseboost View Post
Just posted, next bid period we’ll continue with the reduced guarantee lines and voluntary incentivized leaves of absence..so yeah, I’m new here but I don’t think we’d hire in this environment currently..maybe a realignment bid to replace the retired captains?

We have that every bid…contractual...until recently they awarded 0 slots tho
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Old 07-14-2023, 09:59 PM
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True, but on the short domestic flights how full are the MDs?
It has been varying wildly. I’ve flown empty jets around and I’ve flown jets with 115k of payload. An MD can haul 200k, but I’ve only done that flying out of Asia. Domestically, I’d guess the 76 can cover 95% of the flying the MD does. Internationally, which is now rare, the MD and 76 serve very different purposes. I’m assuming that senior airline management wants to be a 74 and 76 airline. Atlanta probably doesn’t care what senior airline management thinks.
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