How low will we go
#11
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
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We have new 767s coming next year and presumably more MDs getting parked. This should drive a system bid to move folks where they are needed and replace retiring captains. Will it result in new vacancies? I think so, but only in small numbers.
#12
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
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At the ANC GMM, the EB said the company is forecasting the volume to increase over the next 12-18 months and then maintain. It won’t be Covid volume, but won’t be doom and gloom either, rather a shift to the new normal (until it changes again). We have been spoiled since 2018 when they’ve been hiring 200+ per year, the slowdown is making people anxious. With all the ‘94 hires and prior starting to reach 30+ years, there should be movement soon. The next few years will be interesting.
#14
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We’re adding nine 767s in 2023 and staffing them at 10 pilots per airframe. Don’t we staff the MD at eight pilots per plane? Either way, between the additional airframes and net pilots required to staff them, plus retirements, there will be seats to fill by the end of the year. I would guess the company has it on hold at the moment until this Teamsters agreement is reached. Then we’ll have to deal with them during our negotiations starting next fall.
At the ANC GMM, the EB said the company is forecasting the volume to increase over the next 12-18 months and then maintain. It won’t be Covid volume, but won’t be doom and gloom either, rather a shift to the new normal (until it changes again). We have been spoiled since 2018 when they’ve been hiring 200+ per year, the slowdown is making people anxious. With all the ‘94 hires and prior starting to reach 30+ years, there should be movement soon. The next few years will be interesting.
At the ANC GMM, the EB said the company is forecasting the volume to increase over the next 12-18 months and then maintain. It won’t be Covid volume, but won’t be doom and gloom either, rather a shift to the new normal (until it changes again). We have been spoiled since 2018 when they’ve been hiring 200+ per year, the slowdown is making people anxious. With all the ‘94 hires and prior starting to reach 30+ years, there should be movement soon. The next few years will be interesting.
#15
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#16
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#18
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Position: DC-8 756/767
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We’re adding nine 767s in 2023 and staffing them at 10 pilots per airframe. Don’t we staff the MD at eight pilots per plane? Either way, between the additional airframes and net pilots required to staff them, plus retirements, there will be seats to fill by the end of the year. I would guess the company has it on hold at the moment until this Teamsters agreement is reached. Then we’ll have to deal with them during our negotiations starting next fall..
We won’t be dealing with the company for years. I would guess 2028 we will see any kind of agreement. We will be very low priority for the company to give us any kind of agreement for years to come.
#19
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We have that every bid…contractual...until recently they awarded 0 slots tho
#20
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It has been varying wildly. I’ve flown empty jets around and I’ve flown jets with 115k of payload. An MD can haul 200k, but I’ve only done that flying out of Asia. Domestically, I’d guess the 76 can cover 95% of the flying the MD does. Internationally, which is now rare, the MD and 76 serve very different purposes. I’m assuming that senior airline management wants to be a 74 and 76 airline. Atlanta probably doesn’t care what senior airline management thinks.
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