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Old 10-12-2023, 11:23 AM
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The EB has succeeded in convincing management to start contract negotiations earlier than planned by roughly 4 months. That’s good news. We shall see what the overall negotiating environment will be next summer. Hopefully, volume will be growing steadily and the company will care how applicants perceive us and how motivated a work force we are.
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Old 10-12-2023, 01:30 PM
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We will get a contract when UPS is ready....we just have to make them ready.
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Old 10-12-2023, 03:20 PM
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We will get a contract when UPS is ready....we just have to make them ready.
ain’t that the trick
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Old 10-13-2023, 05:42 AM
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We will get a contract when UPS is ready....we just have to make them ready.
I’ll be curious to see how Carol handles this. I don’t think she wants all the negative press regarding a potential strike, so maybe she will push this thing along a bit quicker than previous CEOs. We got our a$$es handed to us when we lost volume prior to the Teamsters contract expiring, I don’t think she wants a repeat of that.
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Old 10-13-2023, 08:26 AM
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I’ll be curious to see how Carol handles this. I don’t think she wants all the negative press regarding a potential strike, so maybe she will push this thing along a bit quicker than previous CEOs. We got our a$$es handed to us when we lost volume prior to the Teamsters contract expiring, I don’t think she wants a repeat of that.

Absolutely no threat of a strike in this situation. The two scenarios are in no way alike. This will be a very long drawn out process that will be as ugly as it’s always been. The company has zero incentive to do anything less.

Getting hopes just ensures a let down. Need to manage expectations.
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Old 10-13-2023, 09:53 AM
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Absolutely no threat of a strike in this situation. The two scenarios are in no way alike. This will be a very long drawn out process that will be as ugly as it’s always been. The company has zero incentive to do anything less.

Getting hopes just ensures a let down. Need to manage expectations.
bingo, IPA just trying to save some face after their botched extension 2.0
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Old 10-13-2023, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy23 View Post
Absolutely no threat of a strike in this situation. The two scenarios are in no way alike. This will be a very long drawn out process that will be as ugly as it’s always been. The company has zero incentive to do anything less.

Getting hopes just ensures a let down. Need to manage expectations.
You’re right, no threat of any type of strike. Ever. But since they agreed to early openers, and she has to finish building that golden parachute before she leaves. She can’t have more than 2-3 years left here. Maybe she’ll deal with it differently. Or not.

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bingo, IPA just trying to save some face after their botched extension 2.0
You still holding onto the extension anger? You should get over that, it’s not healthy. Good, bad or indifferent, it’s a thing of the past and you won’t fix it now. Focus on Contract 2028.
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Old 10-13-2023, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mandrake View Post
bingo, IPA just trying to save some face after their botched extension 2.0

That may be your opinion, but not that of a majority of pilots here. Have you been paying any attention of what’s going on with the economy and world? I mean WOW.
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Old 10-13-2023, 12:10 PM
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bingo, IPA just trying to save some face after their botched extension 2.0

Absolutely ridiculous post. We have the best union in the industry. Bar none. You’re listening to the wrong crowd if you believe a single bit of that
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Old 10-13-2023, 01:35 PM
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With the needed scheduling and pairing construction changes that have not been attained in the past, plus the industry leading pay scales and article, catering, software implementation, retirement, travel, etc.
I believe this is the longest contract negotiations in the history of the IPA, I am not realistically expecting a contract until 2027/28. Unless there’s another “they got us on that one” contract by 2026.
I would add just the contract dates to show 27/28/forever instead of 24/25.
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