Anyone leave purple for brown?
#31
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cargo guys will do anything to convince themselves their gig is better. I would rather do 4 legs a day with woke flight attendants during the hours of 7am-7pm than any of the dog **** flying cargo does from 7pm-7am with a 5 hour hub turn sit and the same duty day length. Maybe even get yourself a real meal in the terminal and not a bag of chips and popcorn for dinner. What a joke these cargo airlines are and the brainwashed pilot groups that think it’s 2005 still
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You sound like the kind of guy that complains about having to pay taxes on lottery winnings. Best of luck not having to mow that purple grass.
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I don’t disagree with you on the smiling part, as I myself forget to do it from time to time, but, that all works…..up to a point. People can be quite nasty. Some people can be exceptionally nasty. And these days it’s much harder to put people in their place when they’re being extremely rude since they can whip out their phone in a split second and start recording you. And once they post their vid of a pilot or airline employee on their social media, all they see is where the video began, NOT what lead up to it. That sits in the back of people’s minds. People can take a lot out of you. It affects everyone differently, but even folks with the thickest skin can snap or lash out at angry overly entitled people from time to time.
On the subject of FA’s. There is a LOT of truth to what he said. Had this conversation with numerous other pilots, and they are all in alignment with what the previous poster said. I know many captains and even FO’s that avoid FA’s like the plague once we’ve all hopped off the shuttle and head to the hotel room, myself included. They are just so damn dramatic. I cannot for the life of me understand a lot of people in that work group. Sometimes I can sense other FA’s get annoyed by other FA’s and they’re tired of their bullshxx too, and it’s not just pilots. Sometimes I desire to be around angry passengers than to be standing around overly dramatic, entitled FA’s bitXX and complain nonstop about things. They let the smallest things get to them. Many of them also are very unprofessional out and about in public and around customers. Half the stuff that flows out of their mouths could literally cost a pilot their job. Some are straight up nasty to the customers and the customer wasn’t even rude to them to start with. Recently had a FA talk really nasty to a passenger getting on the aircraft and she did it to them for no particular reason. Her tone was like “this is MY aircraft you’re getting on, now hurry up and board and shut up and quit asking questions. Just shut up and comply.” I turned around and looked at her and gave her the look of “please lose the attitude, k?” She seemed to change her tone a little after I did that, but I also get tired of that with a lot of them from time to time and I haven’t witnessed that in other industries I’ve worked in, including retail. I’ve seen people get treated better while shopping at Walmart or Kroger, and I’m not exaggerating.
On the subject of FA’s. There is a LOT of truth to what he said. Had this conversation with numerous other pilots, and they are all in alignment with what the previous poster said. I know many captains and even FO’s that avoid FA’s like the plague once we’ve all hopped off the shuttle and head to the hotel room, myself included. They are just so damn dramatic. I cannot for the life of me understand a lot of people in that work group. Sometimes I can sense other FA’s get annoyed by other FA’s and they’re tired of their bullshxx too, and it’s not just pilots. Sometimes I desire to be around angry passengers than to be standing around overly dramatic, entitled FA’s bitXX and complain nonstop about things. They let the smallest things get to them. Many of them also are very unprofessional out and about in public and around customers. Half the stuff that flows out of their mouths could literally cost a pilot their job. Some are straight up nasty to the customers and the customer wasn’t even rude to them to start with. Recently had a FA talk really nasty to a passenger getting on the aircraft and she did it to them for no particular reason. Her tone was like “this is MY aircraft you’re getting on, now hurry up and board and shut up and quit asking questions. Just shut up and comply.” I turned around and looked at her and gave her the look of “please lose the attitude, k?” She seemed to change her tone a little after I did that, but I also get tired of that with a lot of them from time to time and I haven’t witnessed that in other industries I’ve worked in, including retail. I’ve seen people get treated better while shopping at Walmart or Kroger, and I’m not exaggerating.
bolded part says enough about your personality. Cargo is a great spot for you!
#36
He's not wrong, soft times soft people entitled people narrative focused people whatever it may be. Smile and wave smile and wave. Cargo is a great spot for many of us and many have never looked back.
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#38
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#39
That's great and for the most part neither do I since I don't deal with it thankfully. Just witnessing the rudeness every so often while dead heading on commercial carriers makes me stay away from our pax operation's for the most part, granted they are charters/mil so it's different than all of society having access lucky us.
The word standards comes to mind. Not mine or yours just overall good manners which seems to be lost at times. Based on current events I see your point "it's not my job" mentality along with "what place is that exactly" is quite confrontational and scary not knowing where that place of professionalism lies along with good manners. Not advocating the "beneath us in some way" narrative or labeling unless you mean when we're flying overhead. So glad this has little or no effect on our box hauling flights - nothing like casual flying. Those who deal with this makes me feel more blessed. Godspeed!
The word standards comes to mind. Not mine or yours just overall good manners which seems to be lost at times. Based on current events I see your point "it's not my job" mentality along with "what place is that exactly" is quite confrontational and scary not knowing where that place of professionalism lies along with good manners. Not advocating the "beneath us in some way" narrative or labeling unless you mean when we're flying overhead. So glad this has little or no effect on our box hauling flights - nothing like casual flying. Those who deal with this makes me feel more blessed. Godspeed!
Last edited by C17B74; 02-27-2024 at 07:34 PM.
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