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sailingfun 01-21-2026 05:10 AM
Originally Posted by Recliner (Post 3994544)
So, what are your take aways from this case?
A refusal to fly overtime at historical levels even if not union sponsored or encouraged will be considered a violation of the RLA.

JohnnyBekkestad 01-21-2026 05:46 AM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3994894)
A refusal to fly overtime at historical levels even if not union sponsored or encouraged will be considered a violation of the RLA.
I don’t work for UPS, but I’ll be damned if the company tries to force me to work overtime. What I choose to do on my off days is my decision. I generally don’t do OT, mainly due to seniority and ability to make it in time to the trip. So I’ve grown fond of my off days…

Recliner 01-21-2026 06:49 AM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3994894)
A refusal to fly overtime at historical levels even if not union sponsored or encouraged will be considered a violation of the RLA.
Understood.

Working my awarded trips is enough. I can't even fathom doing more.

Grease 01-21-2026 07:01 AM
Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad (Post 3994913)
I don’t work for UPS, but I’ll be damned if the company tries to force me to work overtime. What I choose to do on my off days is my decision. I generally don’t do OT, mainly due to seniority and ability to make it in time to the trip. So I’ve grown fond of my off days…
Thanks for sharing, but nobody is trying to force anyone to do anything. That’s not how it works.

Grease 01-21-2026 07:03 AM
Originally Posted by Vito (Post 3994867)
You are correct, so the trick is to read the tea leaves and comprehend subtle signals, and common sense.
After we saw UPS’s reaction to the Accident, denying premiums, schedule disruptions etc etc etc, how can anybody think that it’s not time.
Maybe it’s time for you, and I congratulate you on your personal decision. But it’s exactly that: a personal decision.

JohnnyR 01-21-2026 09:54 AM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3994894)
A refusal to fly overtime at historical levels even if not union sponsored or encouraged will be considered a violation of the RLA.
UPS: The IPA is in violation of the RLA
IPA: Working our schedules now is like working our past schedules + open time. That’s why the pilot group isn’t picking anything up.

See how easy that is, and it works because it’s true.


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BoilerUP 01-21-2026 10:15 AM
13.K.9, last sentence.

CL300 01-21-2026 10:50 AM
Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3995103)
13.K.9, last sentence.
But couldn’t voicing personal opinion be misconstrued as discouraging other crewmembers from picking up said open time or JAs? Seems the last two sentences are contradictory.

BoilerUP 01-21-2026 10:52 AM
Originally Posted by CL300 (Post 3995122)
But couldn’t voicing personal opinion be misconstrued as discouraging other crewmembers from picking up said open time or JAs? Seems the last two sentences are contradictory.
The final sentence protects a specific action from the bounds of the preceding sentence.

CL300 01-21-2026 10:59 AM
Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3995125)
The final sentence protects a specific action from the bounds of the preceding sentence.
I’ll stash that last sentence into my toolbox in case the need arises to quote it. A get out of jail card, of sorts. 😉


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