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Old 06-01-2021, 02:54 PM
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It doesn’t work like that when you upgrade. At that point your sick bank is in effect sold at your FO rate and then re-purchases sik days at your Capt rate.
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Old 06-01-2021, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chida View Post
It doesn’t work like that when you upgrade. At that point your sick bank is in effect sold at your FO rate and then re-purchases sik days at your Capt rate.
thats what the contract says, but It did not work like that for me or any of the others I have asked
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Old 06-01-2021, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Night_Hawk View Post
thats what the contract says, but It did not work like that for me or any of the others I have asked
When you really need every minute of your sick time there will be an audit and the company will recoup their gold. “O’Doyle rules...”

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Old 06-03-2021, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 6010C View Post
With this strategy I would recommend waiting till one upgrades to up the value of all the banked sicktime from F/O Payrates to Captain Payrates. And cashing out also means your banked hours do not go up in value with the annual pay increases from the contract extension.
Both of those make sense. You could look for a 3% investment I guess.
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Colleagues,

Occasional lurker. Curious what the Z stands for behind a base (SDFZ) and curious what the average (normal without picking up) monthly credit is per fleet ?
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Old 06-07-2021, 10:17 AM
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Colleagues,

Occasional lurker. Curious what the Z stands for behind a base (SDFZ) and curious what the average (normal without picking up) monthly credit is per fleet ?
Z is the 767 international side of the house. UPS divides the SDF767 bases up into 2 bases domestic and International....SDFZ. As for monthly credit. 75 hours is the guarantee per pay period. Flying domestic that's about what you will get. Sometimes a little more. Flying International, guys will often get more with lines often built to upwards of 85 hours.
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Old 06-07-2021, 10:24 AM
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Excellent. Pretty much the picture I had in mind thanks
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Old 06-07-2021, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mrvmo View Post
Z is the 767 international side of the house. UPS divides the SDF767 bases up into 2 bases domestic and International....SDFZ. As for monthly credit. 75 hours is the guarantee per pay period. Flying domestic that's about what you will get. Sometimes a little more. Flying International, guys will often get more with lines often built to upwards of 85 hours.
To be clear. 75hrs per pay period equals 81hrs per month. We have 13 pay periods per yr.
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Old 06-14-2021, 03:47 AM
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As a number of folks have commented, it will depend on fleet. As an SDF MD guy, I would tell you that the seniority to hold 14 on/off reserve will vary dramatically. We do have some longer lines that would reduce your number of commutes as well. The single best tool you will have as a junior dude is the trip board. Be aggressive about dropping and trading trips and you will be able to build a more commuter friendly line. This is not without stress, but doable. Most people aren’t really happy about being at UPS until they hit their second year here. Suddenly, on second year pay, leaving for anywhere else seems unthinkable.
tnkrdrvr…weighing the options of MD or 74 for July heavy class assuming MDs are in the drop. Would you mind PMing me to discuss current MD schedule for a junior guy. Thank you!
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Old 06-14-2021, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MoosePileit View Post
5.5 credit hours per pay period of 28 days, 13 each year.

You can sell down to 148 minimum or a number that jumps up 10 hours per year.

148/75 credit guarentee per 28 day pay period is about 56 days of sick. One could sell about a pay period, in theory.
You can sell down to 148 or continue accruing up to 208, the max allowed under the 2016 CBA, your choice, but anything over 208 as of the end of the November bid period gets paid out in December.

The trip board can be beneficial as long as you know what you are doing. Say you have a line that has 65 hr credit…you still get paid guarantee of 75. You have what is called a 10 hour line buffer. Now you post a trip that has a 20 hour credit and someone picks it up, if you want to get back to 75 hours, you not only have to pick up something for 20 hours, you also have to “make up” the 10 hour buffer, so if you drop 20 hour trip, you will need 30 hours pickup to get back to 75 credit. Most people colloquially call this flying for free.
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