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Old 11-01-2021 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FTv3
For me (I’m probably an average line holder), it’s adding about 400 Cr per year from my status quo. Knock off say 50 hrs worth of premiums from the extra flying = 350 needed. 350/13 = 27 hrs cr extra needed per pay period. This is 4-5 days at straight pay (avg 6 hrs/ day intl) or a 3 day at JA, each pay period. Not hard but not exactly easy either.
Just as an example, a friend had a 7 day Asia trip. Ended up flying 1 actual leg and got 22 hours extra for DHs, and COLs. A lot of guys aren't working more, the system is just screwed up and they're making bank because its UPS.
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Old 11-02-2021 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Just as an example, a friend had a 7 day Asia trip. Ended up flying 1 actual leg and got 22 hours extra for DHs, and COLs. A lot of guys aren't working more, the system is just screwed up and they're making bank because its UPS.
Last November I had a ten day Asia trip payout over 40 hours in premium pay (not counting late arrival). Our Asia system is running well past “max” capacity and even minor hiccups result in ripples through the system that equal lots of premium. This summer I went around the world without ever operating a leg on a reserve callout. The company opted to let hiring lag growth and as a result it’s easy to make extra money, even if you don’t want to. There are no guarantees, but it’s a numbers game stacked in your favor.
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Old 11-02-2021 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
Last November I had a ten day Asia trip payout over 40 hours in premium pay (not counting late arrival). Our Asia system is running well past “max” capacity and even minor hiccups result in ripples through the system that equal lots of premium. This summer I went around the world without ever operating a leg on a reserve callout. The company opted to let hiring lag growth and as a result it’s easy to make extra money, even if you don’t want to. There are no guarantees, but it’s a numbers game stacked in your favor.
Nice! I had a 14 day around the world probably last August. Operated 3 legs in one day. 105 hours off in Penang. No idea what what the premiums added up to but it was substantial.
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Old 11-02-2021 | 03:19 PM
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Last month I had 46-hour 7 day trip turn into an 76-hour 8 day with all the premiums and late arrival. First time that happened to me like that, so I’m not sure how common that is. Yes I’m still relatively new.
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Old 11-03-2021 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Grease
Last month I had 46-hour 7 day trip turn into an 76-hour 8 day with all the premiums and late arrival. First time that happened to me like that, so I’m not sure how common that is. Yes I’m still relatively new.
Happens. I had a 7 day turn into 10 on paper and I only got home 1 day late with a ticket from FRA. LP2 and revisions paid 130 hours for that week long trip. Only time I got into 250%.
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Old 11-03-2021 | 08:52 PM
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Can anyone post actual examples of trips at UPS?

Here is an example of a trip at my carrier.
Show 0920 on Day 1, fly 2 legs, off 12 hours
Day 2: fly 3 legs, off 22 hours
Day 3, fly 1 short leg, off 11 hours
Day 4, 1 leg home. Done by Noon

Pay about 21.5hrs

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Old 11-03-2021 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Armyguy
Can anyone post actual examples of trips at UPS?

Here is an example of a trip at my carrier.
Show 0920 on Day 1, fly 2 legs, off 12 hours
Day 2: fly 3 legs, off 22 hours
Day 3, fly 1 short leg, off 11 hours
Day 4, 1 leg home. Done by Noon

Pay about 21.5hrs
It varies incredibly by fleet and domicile. On the MD, this week Monday: show 1540L two legs blocked in just before 2400. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday the same. These are turns which are a good deal if you live local, like weekends off, and want to sleep in your own bed every night. Not sure how junior they go every month (I normally bid reserve), but definitely within reach for someone who’s been here a couple years. Assuming retirements and growth follow current projections (I’m aware of that gamble), someone hired in the next couple months should advance up the seniority list about as quickly at either UPS or AA. You will probably have at least 6-12 months of not a lot of control while folks behind you go through training and folks ahead of you wait for their upgrades. The variability between fleets is massive, but no one from my new hire class has opted to leave the 75/76, Airbus, or 74 for the MD. So obviously, life over there can’t be that bad.
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Old 11-04-2021 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
It varies incredibly by fleet and domicile. On the MD, this week Monday: show 1540L two legs blocked in just before 2400. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday the same. These are turns which are a good deal if you live local, like weekends off, and want to sleep in your own bed every night. Not sure how junior they go every month (I normally bid reserve), but definitely within reach for someone who’s been here a couple years. Assuming retirements and growth follow current projections (I’m aware of that gamble), someone hired in the next couple months should advance up the seniority list about as quickly at either UPS or AA. You will probably have at least 6-12 months of not a lot of control while folks behind you go through training and folks ahead of you wait for their upgrades. The variability between fleets is massive, but no one from my new hire class has opted to leave the 75/76, Airbus, or 74 for the MD. So obviously, life over there can’t be that bad.
thanks. That would pay 24hrs if I understand the pay correctly.

I appreciate it
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Old 11-04-2021 | 08:26 AM
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Anyone willing to share a bid pack in pdf form?
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Old 11-05-2021 | 12:46 AM
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Historically Does training run on Christmas/Christmas Eve? Or do new hires get a few days off during that period?
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