Delta vs UPS Contract Comparison
09-13-2016 | 02:32 PM
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I disagree. Many captains will reach $400,000 in W2 earnings next year excluding the bonus payment installment, and many First Officers will clear $280,000. The math in the analysis seems to work.
Now, a major factor in career earnings is how well you invested your 401k and B-fund monies. This can make a huge difference between retiring pilot A and retiring pilot B.
Bottom line is, the whole career earnings exercise is a "wag" and not very scientific. Your mileage may vary.
Now, a major factor in career earnings is how well you invested your 401k and B-fund monies. This can make a huge difference between retiring pilot A and retiring pilot B.
Bottom line is, the whole career earnings exercise is a "wag" and not very scientific. Your mileage may vary.
Not even close. And by you putting these insane false numbers out, you should be banned from APC.
I've been here 22 years, fly Intl, and will not even be within $70,000 of your insane numbers. So stop lying to make yourself feel better.
Only a very, very few if they who#e themselves out daily and have no life.
09-14-2016 | 05:11 AM
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24 years ago ( 1992 ) top Captain pay at American, Delta or United was close to 200k a year. Today that number is about 250k
for normal senior captains..I highly doubt you will see pilots making 700k a year even 24 years from now. It'll be more like 350k range I assume
for normal senior captains..I highly doubt you will see pilots making 700k a year even 24 years from now. It'll be more like 350k range I assume
09-14-2016 | 05:14 AM
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09-14-2016 | 06:48 AM
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Definitely includes PS. sailing I wouldn't say significant break 500k. There are a few and they are very senior in category which you have to be to get the soft time credit to maximize schedule with minimal work. The top paid Captain at Delta I believe was an MD88 Captain flying BHM type out and back 2 day trips that pay 10:30 for 1 hour block. Add in a couple Greenslips a month and it's very lucrative.
09-16-2016 | 09:28 AM
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Put the Crack Pipe down. $400,000? Damn, you are out to lunch. How did you pass the Psyc. Test?
Not even close. And by you putting these insane false numbers out, you should be banned from APC.
I've been here 22 years, fly Intl, and will not even be within $70,000 of your insane numbers. So stop lying to make yourself feel better.
Only a very, very few if they who#e themselves out daily and have no life.
Not even close. And by you putting these insane false numbers out, you should be banned from APC.
I've been here 22 years, fly Intl, and will not even be within $70,000 of your insane numbers. So stop lying to make yourself feel better.
Only a very, very few if they who#e themselves out daily and have no life.
If you voted no on the contract you were among the 8% who are so out of touch with the world in which we live. That's fine though. However, to come on this forum and spread mistruths and blatantly lie says much about your character, or lack therof.
The standard "multiplier" put out by DP and the IPA for years has been 1.15 times hourly rate = annual earnings. Some will only choose to make guarantee while others do more.
The following are facts based upon historical "work rates" at UPS for full time pilots The source is the IPA.
100% of UPS/IPA captains will make more than $292,500.
50% of UPS/IPA captains will make more than $345,000.
25% of UPS/IPA captains will make more than $390,000.
These numbers are not debatable. They are what they are.
09-16-2016 | 05:19 PM
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80% of Commando's posts are some sort of complaining or exaggeration. Luckily there are folks here to correct him or call out most of his BS. There are guys who come here for the facts. Facts that might help them to make a decision to come to work here...or not. If you are one of those, first good luck with you decision. Two, take commando's posts with a very fine grain of salt.
09-16-2016 | 06:31 PM
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From: fins to the left, fins to the right
But generalizing a group and only caring about $$$ I guess is in these days.
People vote. Have respect for all opinions.
09-20-2016 | 06:10 PM
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I calculated top pay rate times guarantee reserve hours to come up with annual compensation. That is more realistic. What does a reserve 777 Captain at Delta bring home? Not someone who is picking up overtime and flying max hours. Even so, it probably takes 30 years to hold left seat on a 777/747 at DAL. So unless you one is hired in their 20s, they will never be able to reach top pay. I like the pay structure at UPS, paid by years of service and seat, regardless of aircraft flown.
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