The LCO ** sandwich
02-13-2017, 04:39 AM
#32
Gets Weekends Off
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Originally Posted by Section Eight
Now all I need is that bag tag I used to see:
"Don't blame me, I voted NO"
The reserve rules alone were a NO, but money trumps QOL for many, as we see here.
"Don't blame me, I voted NO"
The reserve rules alone were a NO, but money trumps QOL for many, as we see here.
I've asked and nobody I've talked to on reserve has gotten extended into a day off, yet. Unless you got data to demonstrate they are consistently doing it, I'm holding judgement for the time being.
LCO issue will require us to wait and see IF the company obliterates opentime, right now there is only speculation. Seeing as they are short staffed it is to their advantage having OT for guys pick up on their days off vs assigning it to LCO's and reserves.
02-13-2017, 05:03 AM
#33
The NeverEnding Story
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Originally Posted by FTFF
I've asked and nobody I've talked to on reserve has gotten extended into a day off, yet. Unless you got data to demonstrate they are consistently doing it, I'm holding judgement for the time being.
I personally know two RSV FOs who have been extended into days off, and talked to another one night as he was extended into days off for the second time in two weeks. It was the last day of the bid period and the last day of his reserve block, and the company said technically the extension wouldn't happen until the new bid period so therefore it wasn't a violation of the "one extension per pay period" rule.
One upside to LCO is that the company can't make adhoc Hots for CA/CPs like they used to; now the extra Hots that Contingency wants for weather/volume/_______ have to go to a RSV or, when they are short reserves like they are right now in many seats, JA.
02-13-2017, 07:53 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Yes, it is happening on a regular basis...consequence of a lack of staffing.
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One upside to LCO is that the company can't make adhoc Hots for CA/CPs like they used to; now the extra Hots that Contingency wants for weather/volume/_______ have to go to a RSV or, when they are short reserves like they are right now in many seats, JA.
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One upside to LCO is that the company can't make adhoc Hots for CA/CPs like they used to; now the extra Hots that Contingency wants for weather/volume/_______ have to go to a RSV or, when they are short reserves like they are right now in many seats, JA.
2. I like the sim support exclusion. That was the only type of callout I got when on CA and hated it as a commuter.
02-13-2017, 11:27 AM
#35
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 306
Originally Posted by FTFF
1. Maybe fleet dependent? For every time I hear rumors they are doing it I hear someone in person say the opposite. Someone at the union is tracking this, right? Would love to see the initial numbers.
02-13-2017, 12:00 PM
#36
Where's my Mai Tai?
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Originally Posted by FTFF
I've asked and nobody I've talked to on reserve has gotten extended into a day off, yet. Unless you got data to demonstrate they are consistently doing it, I'm holding judgement for the time being.
I asked him if he'd ever been based up north or looked at the open time especially during transition. He said no. At least he was honest but I told him it would get used all the time:
02-13-2017, 03:01 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Yes, it is happening on a regular basis...consequence of a lack of staffing.
I personally know two RSV FOs who have been extended into days off, and talked to another one night as he was extended into days off for the second time in two weeks...
I personally know two RSV FOs who have been extended into days off, and talked to another one night as he was extended into days off for the second time in two weeks...
Once in Dec and once in Jan. Its too early in Feb to make it 3 for 3.
Its happening.
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