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Old 07-11-2009, 12:25 PM   #10021 (permalink)
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Last I heard on Wednesday, 08 July the PRIP count was 131. 124 DAL-N, 7 DAL-S. Latest estimate is that ~200 will PRIP by the 15th. Remember that they can retract their paperwork up until 31 July.

Kind of wondering why they would have a big AE/displacement coming out on the 15th before they have a final tally on PRIP.

I also heard that the 767/757 will be transitioning to all crews international qualified like old NW. Got that one from a Chief Pilot.
They're going to have to do something about the Jepps if they go all -ER. I'm responsible for updating pretty much a world wide pubs set now. Making every 75/76 guy do the same would be crazy. The EFB can't get here soon enough. I've heard United is using only shipsets now. Why not the same for us until the EFB comes online? I'm also wondering how they'll keep crews qualified on the special airports. So much of our 75/76 time is domestic, combining categories really doesn't make much sense, at least to me, and also lowers the number of system reserves required. Bad for us it seems. Is DALPA onboard with this? OK, whining mode off.
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Old 07-11-2009, 12:25 PM   #10022 (permalink)
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Reading APC seems to put me on a roller coaster of opinions as to what will happen. Maybe I should just stop, but there is good info.
I try to just read the forums, news, financials etc. only about once a week. That way I keep informed, but I'm not on a constant roller coaster of emotion. My family appreciates it, since I'm only intolerable one day out of the week.

You're right, good info, but if you watch it every day it will wear on you.
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Old 07-11-2009, 12:43 PM   #10023 (permalink)
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You do know that in one of the revisions you only need to carry half of them.
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Old 07-11-2009, 01:10 PM   #10024 (permalink)
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Interesting, which half? Currently at NWA, we only have to carry where we're going. For example, the domestic (including mexico, canada and alaska) if domestic. There is a europe book, but you only have to carry it if going to europe. When you go to asia, you can leave the domestic books home and take over an empty binder for the asia brick that you pickup when you get there.

When we start flying over to asia from a west coast gateway, I wonder how much we'll have to carry..........the asia brick is thick.

Are they even looking at EFBs while times are bad?

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Old 07-11-2009, 01:23 PM   #10025 (permalink)
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You do know that in one of the revisions you only need to carry half of them.
It's updating a world wide pubs set every two weeks that's time consuming and I'm sure, expensive for the company. It's 2009 and the amount of paper I toss out every two weeks is nuts.

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If you are not going to Europe, you do not have to carry the Euro jepps. For domestic, Capt has to carry A-M and any airports you are going to in N-Z. FO's are opposite.

Right now all Asian and South American jepps are in the "domestic" jepps. This will probably change after SOC. (My guess)

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Interesting, which half? Currently at NWA, we only have to carry where we're going. For example, the domestic (including mexico, canada and alaska) if domestic. There is a europe book, but you only have to carry it if going to europe. When you go to asia, you can leave the domestic books home and take over an empty binder for the asia brick that you pickup when you get there.

When we start flying over to asia from a west coast gateway, I wonder how much we'll have to carry..........the asia brick is thick.

Are they even looking at EFBs while times are bad?

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At least in my West Coast base the domestic pubs are combined with Asia (not too may of those yet), Pacific, Mex, Carib, South and Central America. Europe is a separate book you only carry if you go there. Capt's carry A-M and FOs N-Z (I think). They are looking at an EFB still but supposedly an updated version that has more capability such as GPS taxi assistance etc.
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If you are not going to Europe, you do not have to carry the Euro jepps. For domestic, Capt has to carry A-M and any airports you are going to in N-Z. FO's are opposite.

Right now all Asian and South American jepps are in the "domestic" jepps. This will probably change after SOC. (My guess)

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Interesting yet another culture thing I guess. Everyone has their own charts out vs share. Where do you guys put it the plate where both guys can see it?

But, sure is a good way to cut down on how much we have to carry. A ships copy would be good as long as they were kept up (not torn etc). An EFB would be the dream.

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Old 07-11-2009, 01:38 PM   #10029 (permalink)
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At least in my West Coast base the domestic pubs are combined with Asia (not too may of those yet), Pacific, Mex, Carib, South and Central America. Europe is a separate book you only carry if you go there. Capt's carry A-M and FOs N-Z (I think). They are looking at an EFB still but supposedly an updated version that has more capability such as GPS taxi assistance etc.

Yep... In the most recent magazine there was a pretty extensive article about EFBs. They want them, but not the current generation (sounds oddly familiar to something else we're "looking in to)... they are waiting for a next generation that will be more fully integrated.
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They are looking at an EFB still but supposedly an updated version that has more capability such as GPS taxi assistance etc.
WOW.........now that would be nice!
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