aaatwood

I can fly one way BOS-SFO on United for $330. One way BOS-LHR - a similar distance - is $1400. Round trip BOS-LHR is $1050. The majors are screwing Atlantic international travelers, and NAI will help fix that. Face it, the party is over. They killed Freddy Laker, but NAI is the international version of SWA. Look forward to buying my first ticket.

RI830

Any carrier is gonna charge an arm and a leg for a one way oceanic flight. The Visa Waiver Program/Signatory Carrier would require the carrier to fly you back if the immigrations facility chose to lot let you in to the country.

i.e.....United would have to return you to BOS at their cost. So they charge the extra. Now you can argue that they should only charge the same round trip cost and not the extra $350 as in your statement above.

NEDude

But how many jobs with legacy airlines are actually available in Europe right now? How many of them are available for someone in their 40's or 50's? British Airways, Lufthansa, KLM, etc. will never look at experienced captain in their 40's or 50's. This is very different than the U.S. market where that same experienced captain will have a legitimate shot at American, Delta or United. Your opportunities in Europe drop significantly once you hit 30, and they are virtually non-existent with the legacy airlines. So for an older and experienced pilot, the jobs available are typically seasonal contract jobs (e.g. Aegean), charter airlines (e.g. Small Planet), or LCCs (e.g. Norwegian). For the jobs currently available for experienced captains, the salary for the Norwegian 787 contract is very much in the normal range. I say this as an experienced captain in my 40's who has been looking for a job in Europe (yes I have an EASA ATPL and EU citizenship).

GogglesPisano

Any business charges what the market will bear. Any new entrant will seem like a white knight to the downtrodden consumer who feels entitled to cheap stuff.

Question is, as a pilot (assuming you are), who would you rather see succeed: The airlines that pay pilots well or the airlines that do not?

Fecking EJet

Again, this is false info. At BA we are taking on a very large number of experienced pilots from other airlines. I was one of them. Many are in their 30s and 40s, there have even been a few in their 50s. Granted, Lufthansa isn't a real option, but many of the other legacies are taking pilots from other airlines, plus many of the better low cost airlines pay very competitively.

I flew for a US regional for five years and it was easier for me to get a job with a major in Europe than it was in the US.

Of course if you're talking about street captain jobs then yes, there is very little out there other than NAI, easyJet, Flybe and Ryanair. But then, how many good street captain jobs are there in the US outside of the regionals?

Regarding pilots campaigning against NAI in Europe, sadly there is very little that can be done. European open skies means that any European carrier can operate from any European airport much like any US airline can operate from any US airport. Sadly protectionism died in Europe with the EU and open skies. The only way to fight the likes of NAI is for our unions to protect our own contracts and for our companies to offer a superior product.

CaYaTeKbron

All I can get from this forum is legacy and National pilot in desperation, ...IMO, is up to managment to be concern about it, .....

intrepidcv11

The thing about Sparkie the 787 is it breaks down epically. Always a good formula when new tech meets bottom feeding operation. Enjoy it.

Norwegian Air flight suffers 70-hour delay - The Local

METO Guido

Three years now since the original application filing? The tentative ruling will become final, that’s almost a given. So the heavy hitters are just going to have to take on these most recent challengers old school style…kick ‘em to the curb seizing every possible advantage their dominant cash position & market share provides. It’s a real pi$$er and once again our non-gov’t leaves US airline workers to fend for themselves.

RI830

Norwegian loses one billion kroner in three months - The Local