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09-22-2014, 09:54 AM
#381
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Originally Posted by Name User
The companies that are staffing now only can do so because of the promise of short upgrades. At the tail end of their delivery schedule you'll see them have the same issues.
09-22-2014, 10:22 AM
#382
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Originally Posted by word302
SkyWest has been hiring 30 to 60 per month all year with a current 7 year upgrade. Not sure your logic is sound.
The fact is any company with a good contract (Skywest) or quick movement (Compass, PSA, Mesa) is having no issues hiring. This may and probably will change as retirements really kick in at the majors and guys begin to leave the regionals in larger numbers, but we're not there yet.
09-22-2014, 10:34 AM
#383
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
Envoy pilots are currently in denial.
Did they have the pilot shortage leverage they thought they had? Time will tell, but that wasn't the MAIN reason for the actions to date.
Bzzt, continue to wallow in your self pity and blame everyone else for your troubles in life. If you don't like it, you can quite. Either way, stop whining like a little girl all of the time, it gets old.
09-22-2014, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherEagleGuy
Disagree. They just decided they didn't want to fly larger planes for less money when the company is reaping in record profits. What is SO hard to understand about that for you Bzzt??
Did they have the pilot shortage leverage they thought they had? Time will tell, but that wasn't the MAIN reason for the actions to date.
Bzzt, continue to wallow in your self pity and blame everyone else for your troubles in life. If you don't like it, you can quite. Either way, stop whining like a little girl all of the time, it gets old.
Did they have the pilot shortage leverage they thought they had? Time will tell, but that wasn't the MAIN reason for the actions to date.
Bzzt, continue to wallow in your self pity and blame everyone else for your troubles in life. If you don't like it, you can quite. Either way, stop whining like a little girl all of the time, it gets old.
09-22-2014, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherEagleGuy
Disagree. They just decided they didn't want to fly larger planes for less money when the company is reaping in record profits. What is SO hard to understand about that for you Bzzt??
Did they have the pilot shortage leverage they thought they had? Time will tell, but that wasn't the MAIN reason for the actions to date.
Bzzt, continue to wallow in your self pity and blame everyone else for your troubles in life. If you don't like it, you can quite. Either way, stop whining like a little girl all of the time, it gets old.
Did they have the pilot shortage leverage they thought they had? Time will tell, but that wasn't the MAIN reason for the actions to date.
Bzzt, continue to wallow in your self pity and blame everyone else for your troubles in life. If you don't like it, you can quite. Either way, stop whining like a little girl all of the time, it gets old.
09-22-2014, 10:41 AM
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Bzzt you got it wrong. We were not going to put up with parker and Kirby bull. Period. They can get concession from where ever they can BUT not here. We all knew they can close the doors here anytime as they have been saying for 20 years. WE DO NOT CARE. Shut this place down.
09-22-2014, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Bzzt you got it wrong. We were not going to put up with parker and Kirby bull. Period. They can get concession from where ever they can BUT not here. We all knew they can close the doors here anytime as they have been saying for 20 years. WE DO NOT CARE. Shut this place down.
09-22-2014, 11:16 AM
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If PSA and PDT had voted no, Eagle was STILL going to be the higher-cost wholly-owned, (simply because they have such a large and senior pilot group), and for that reason, alone,.... they were necessarily going to shrink.
The only question that remains is this: HOW MUCH is Eagle going to shrink? And the answer to THAT question depends on how much more flying the other (cheaper) regionals can handle.
Eagle was expensive, relative to other wholly-owneds and was going to shrink, either via attrition or flow,.....regardless of PSA or PDT's vote.
And yes, I know they're now "Envoy",....but to me they'll always be "Eagle".
The only question that remains is this: HOW MUCH is Eagle going to shrink? And the answer to THAT question depends on how much more flying the other (cheaper) regionals can handle.
Eagle was expensive, relative to other wholly-owneds and was going to shrink, either via attrition or flow,.....regardless of PSA or PDT's vote.
And yes, I know they're now "Envoy",....but to me they'll always be "Eagle".
09-22-2014, 11:19 AM
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Tears are running as I read your post. You mean like you guys who voted and changed our scope let's not forget. You mean you and your class who voted yes blindly to concessions yes I worry I worry that there are to many of your types. You made your position clear also. Bend to management whims at every turn.
09-22-2014, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick111
If PSA and PDT had voted no, Eagle was STILL going to be the higher-cost wholly-owned, (simply because they have such a senior pilot group), and for that reason, alone,.... they were necessarily going to shrink.
The only question that remains is this: HOW MUCH is Eagle going to shrink? And the answer to THAT question depends on how much more flying the other (cheaper) regionals can handle.
Eagle was expensive, relative to other wholly-owneds and was going to shrink, either via attrition or flow,.....regardless of PSA or PDT's vote.
And yes, I know they're now "Envoy",....but to me they'll always be "Eagle".
The only question that remains is this: HOW MUCH is Eagle going to shrink? And the answer to THAT question depends on how much more flying the other (cheaper) regionals can handle.
Eagle was expensive, relative to other wholly-owneds and was going to shrink, either via attrition or flow,.....regardless of PSA or PDT's vote.
And yes, I know they're now "Envoy",....but to me they'll always be "Eagle".
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