gonnesteril

I am curious to see the quals and what type of flying you did before you got on with UPS. I'm sure most have military experience, but does UPS have some regional pilots as well? If so, what kind of hours did you have and what makes somewhere competitive there?

UPSFO4LIFE

I came from a regional. Not sure of percentages, but regional guys and gals make up a good portion of new hires. My new hire class way back only had 2 military guys in it.

Vito

UPS hires a lot of non-military pilots. I believe on of our recent classes was primarily non-mil pilots. I will say they like to see int experience, but by no means is it a pre-requisite .
Good Luck

FTFF

I try to post useful info. There's some good stuff since 2014 if you take the negativity with a grain of salt.

I think the last class was 9,500 TT.

SaltyDog

For 2016 hires, corporate and regional are majority. Military flying background new hires is diminishing significantly for 2016. Atlas seems to be very active for previous heavy jet. Think 6 of 20 in last class.
This is a 2016 snap shot only.
2017 could be whole different snap shot.
Consistent: UPS has always hired from all back grounds and experience.
This holds true for 2016. UPS hires pilots from 20's to late 50's for line pilots.

Freighter Captain

This is true. Corporate, military, regional, freight dogs--- UPS hires 'em all.

I would add that if you're at Atlas/Polar/Southern/similar you're placed at the front of the line. We are poaching a ton of these guys

G550Guy

A small microcosm of America... which is one major reason this nation is so great, Diversity.

Albief15

Some airlines, particularly SWA, FDX, and DAL all seem to have historically liked military pilots, and if anything put a "halo" around some. UPS interviewers have often appeared to have more of a "well..these guys didn't have the taxpayer pay for THEIR training..." type mindset.

There are plenty of good pilots from all backgrounds at UPS, but I know quite a few military interviewees shown the door. A couple are now at FDX and one at Delta. Being military at UPS was "no big deal" to the interviewers.

Conversely, I've seen guys who "weren't FDX/DAL" material hired successfully at UPS.

All this makes me think if you have been schlepping freight in ****-holes around the world, or working 135 somewhere, UPS does NOT look down on that but rather seems to respect the grit you have shown. What made you feel "less sexy" at your Delta interview is actually an attractive trait to UPS.

NYC Pilot

Normally, you post normal things but what exactly is FDX/DAL material? That sounds like a very dumb line because I know many tools who fly for FDX and Delta but somehow they got hired. UPS in on par with any of those two carriers so please stop generalizing. Maybe UPS realizes that a diverse pilot group is better than hiring only military pilots. Not all military pilots are gods gift ya know...

Albief15

I was using the "Delta material" line as what THEY (not me) perceive as stereotypes.

Stereotypically, some carriers in the past "idolize" military flyers. UPS does not. They seem to value guys and gals who have done the tougher 121 supplemental and 135 gigs.

As an example, during the sim prep I've seen questions come up to my mil guys "so...how are you going to deal with flying with guys who never flew off a carrier, etc..." The pilot was smart enough to not take the bait, but it was obvious the interviewer was searching for any bias towards non-military pilots with the candidate. It makes sense, because there are a bunch of pilots from a lot of backgrounds at UPS, and they don't want primadonas.

I think you misread my post. FWIW...I got one kid who is a CFI and will likely purse the regional ranks. I have a bunch of regional folks and some with corporate experience on my team. The best MD-11 LCA I flew with was a 23 year old ATP. I know good pilots come from lots of different places.