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Old 03-08-2018, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by gtr7791 View Post
This is EXACTLY the place I work at... You must be a, senior, mid-west living, line holder. I'm really sorry you are so disconnected StyrkerB21. Go back to sleep.
Ha, I wish. I spent years on reserve. I was getting the same junior man calls as everyone else. I asked the OP to PM me with specific examples of this injustice and my inbox is empty. Maybe you would?
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:23 PM
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Wow this was interesting to read. I was hired by Air Wisconsin in 2006. With the exception of 3 of us, the entire class was current 121. I was a CFI. Training was difficult, especially the sim, but somehow I flew really well on my check ride and passed without any extra sessions. Next up IOE. My first day I was told by my training captain, “I don’t feel like talking today.” Needless to say that wasn’t a great start for me having never flown a jet before lol. The two trips went ok. I struggled with visual approaches of all things...learning later that is very common. I was given one extra trip and then asked to resign. This took place over the course of 5 months. Too many long breaks in between. 3 different instructors in the sim...3 different ioe training captains. Oddly enough that first one I had is still there! It was pretty devastating obviously. I quit flying altogether (until a year ago), but life goes on. I’m trying one last time with a different company obviously..I don’t blame Air Wisconsin, although I’ve been told By a pilot friend who observed one of my sims I would have been fine with better instruction..my only regret is not getting back on the horse sooner. For me personally, I just wasn’t mentally ready back then, and it just wasn’t meant to be at that time. Best of luck to everyone!..but if you do fail, don’t give up!
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:54 AM
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Wow this was interesting to read. I was hired by Air Wisconsin in 2006. With the exception of 3 of us, the entire class was current 121. I was a CFI. Training was difficult, especially the sim, but somehow I flew really well on my check ride and passed without any extra sessions. Next up IOE. My first day I was told by my training captain, “I don’t feel like talking today.” Needless to say that wasn’t a great start for me having never flown a jet before lol. The two trips went ok. I struggled with visual approaches of all things...learning later that is very common. I was given one extra trip and then asked to resign. This took place over the course of 5 months. Too many long breaks in between. 3 different instructors in the sim...3 different ioe training captains. Oddly enough that first one I had is still there! It was pretty devastating obviously. I quit flying altogether (until a year ago), but life goes on. I’m trying one last time with a different company obviously..I don’t blame Air Wisconsin, although I’ve been told By a pilot friend who observed one of my sims I would have been fine with better instruction..my only regret is not getting back on the horse sooner. For me personally, I just wasn’t mentally ready back then, and it just wasn’t meant to be at that time. Best of luck to everyone!..but if you do fail, don’t give up!
My first day I was told by my training captain, “I don’t feel like talking today.” Needless to say that wasn’t a great start for me having never flown a jet before lol.


Translation: The LCA was saying, "I don't feel like doing my job today. My job is already secure. I could not care less about you, or your career. You need to sink, or swim. I just became an LCA because it looks good on my resume, and I don't have a 4 your degree."
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CessnaGril View Post
My first day I was told by my training captain, “I don’t feel like talking today.” Needless to say that wasn’t a great start for me having never flown a jet before lol.


Translation: The LCA was saying, "I don't feel like doing my job today. My job is already secure. I could not care less about you, or your career. You need to sink, or swim. I just became an LCA because it looks good on my resume, and I don't have a 4 your degree."
When did you go through AWA new-hire training?
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:34 AM
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When did you go through AWA new-hire training?
2006 I believe is what they posted.
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:26 AM
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2006 I believe is what they posted.
I wasn’t sure if they meant me or Cessna Gril?...🤷🏻*♀️😬
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:41 PM
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Not sure if they are meaning me or Cessna gril
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Old 03-14-2018, 06:15 AM
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Not sure if they are meaning me or Cessna gril

Cessna. You were clear about it.
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Old 03-14-2018, 06:56 AM
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I will defend our training and some new hires practices, but I will say, in light of our inability to staff, guaranteed junior mans, there's plenty of other good reasons not to come here.
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I will defend our training and some new hires practices, but I will say, in light of our inability to staff, guaranteed junior mans, there's plenty of other good reasons not to come here.
Kind of a catch 22. Don't come to awac because the company can't staff. If we could attract the caliber pilot that will actually work hard and study a few hours every night instead of being argumentative with the instructors and drinking at D2 every night our pass rate would be fantastic.

The training departments job isn't to staff the airline though. No one should be coming here or any airline for that matter thinking they can just breeze right through the training. Unfortunately thats the kind of people we've been hiring as of late. Then they wonder why they don't pass and make a spectacle of themselves on the forums.
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