2018 new TA
#201
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 237
We’re much more likely to be bought. Keeping the operations costs low (i.e pilot pay) makes the company more appealing for a buyout. Much like Frontier.
Whether or not this happens depends on what happens with United’s Pilot and FA contracts.
Either way I think we’ll know by late 2019 what the future of AWA holds.
Whether or not this happens depends on what happens with United’s Pilot and FA contracts.
Either way I think we’ll know by late 2019 what the future of AWA holds.
#202
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,291
We’re much more likely to be bought. Keeping the operations costs low (i.e pilot pay) makes the company more appealing for a buyout. Much like Frontier.
Whether or not this happens depends on what happens with United’s Pilot and FA contracts.
Either way I think we’ll know by late 2019 what the future of AWA holds.
Whether or not this happens depends on what happens with United’s Pilot and FA contracts.
Either way I think we’ll know by late 2019 what the future of AWA holds.
#204
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 48
Vote yes
Must look at situation outside of bubble, Past, Present, Future. The reality, the big picture. It is what it is regardless of what is wanted. Would the Feds release to strike? (oh you think they would huh?) Is United's master plan a wholly owned model? Does your vote help or hurt your present, your future. Don't vote on emotion, don't vote on the past.
Do you really believe you will get much better based on current industry standards? How long will that take? Of course more is wanted but is that the reality of regional flying today? How does this contract compare with other regionals? The Union signed off on this contract.
TAKE the money or not
Do you really believe you will get much better based on current industry standards? How long will that take? Of course more is wanted but is that the reality of regional flying today? How does this contract compare with other regionals? The Union signed off on this contract.
TAKE the money or not
#205
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 314
Must look at situation outside of bubble, Past, Present, Future. The reality, the big picture. It is what it is regardless of what is wanted. Would the Feds release to strike? (oh you think they would huh?) Is United's master plan a wholly owned model? Does your vote help or hurt your present, your future. Don't vote on emotion, don't vote on the past.
Do you really believe you will get much better based on current industry standards? How long will that take? Of course more is wanted but is that the reality of regional flying today? How does this contract compare with other regionals? The Union signed off on this contract.
TAKE the money or not
Do you really believe you will get much better based on current industry standards? How long will that take? Of course more is wanted but is that the reality of regional flying today? How does this contract compare with other regionals? The Union signed off on this contract.
TAKE the money or not
Is the NMB going to release United? No. Could they release Air Wisconsin? Absolutely. If this TA is voted down, that union structure there must be pulled down and replaced piece by piece. If the TA passes, welcome to the regional pit of misery! Dilly Dilly!
#206
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 397
The 2015 TA was what ruined the current one for us. The NMB isn't going to allow either side to raise their demands from the last offer. I understand when the union says this was the best they can do. They put us in this position though and in my opinion new leadership will be an improvement. If it takes time thats alright, we have time on our side as industry standard is only increasing. I want our leadership investing for the long term future of our pilot group, not the short term.
#210
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 164
I used to work at AWAC. Your comment indicates that Air Wisconsin going on strike is impossible due to the fact that they are so big. That is not the case. If Spirit was released a few years ago, Air Wisconsin could be released as well.
Is the NMB going to release United? No. Could they release Air Wisconsin? Absolutely. If this TA is voted down, that union structure there must be pulled down and replaced piece by piece. If the TA passes, welcome to the regional pit of misery! Dilly Dilly!
Is the NMB going to release United? No. Could they release Air Wisconsin? Absolutely. If this TA is voted down, that union structure there must be pulled down and replaced piece by piece. If the TA passes, welcome to the regional pit of misery! Dilly Dilly!
We are not privy to that information, nor are we privy to the negotiating survey results, but the MEC was when they approved the TA. There are significant drawbacks for a FFD pilot group (especially one in AWA's situation) going on strike and it is very possible that the survey results showed that there would not be majority support for labor action. With most pilots just looking to move on to a major as quickly as possible there is not much upside and a ton of potential downside to striking. I'm sure that the MEC spent a great deal of time analyzing and debating this option before approving the TA and if they concluded that it isn't a viable option then they must have good reason to believe so.
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