New Crew Base?
07-19-2018, 12:43 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by donkeyjockey
Its going to be exactly like mke.
They waited to announce this just after the last vacancy closed to dupe jr guys to upgrade. They resigned themselves to commute to mke on resv, but now will have to be displaced to cae and deal with that form of hell for who knows how long. Congrats to all those that were awarded mke rsv captain.
They waited to announce this just after the last vacancy closed to dupe jr guys to upgrade. They resigned themselves to commute to mke on resv, but now will have to be displaced to cae and deal with that form of hell for who knows how long. Congrats to all those that were awarded mke rsv captain.
07-19-2018, 05:42 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by Roverruckus
I really hope IAD doesn't lose more lines. A line holder FO is almost as senior as MKE reserve captain.
Crew planning hates hubs. We need contractual language on this.
07-19-2018, 08:15 PM
#36
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Originally Posted by squib
Of course you can. Seat locked...
Another guy who doesn't know current contract. Probably voted yes on the last TA too.
Another guy who doesn't know current contract. Probably voted yes on the last TA too.
Section 24.k.5 says:
Effect of a displacement
A pilot who is displaced from his position shall not be subject to a freeze in the position into which he displaces.
Section 2.CC
“Position” means equipment, seat, and domicile.
That’s my rationale asking why you couldn’t just bid back to FO. It is a question though so if you know more than me please bestow upon me your divine wisdom.
Last edited by lukeh99; 07-19-2018 at 08:35 PM.
07-19-2018, 08:35 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by squib
Of course you can. Seat locked...
Another guy who doesn't know current contract. Probably voted yes on the last TA too.
Another guy who doesn't know current contract. Probably voted yes on the last TA too.
FYI, a lot of us didn’t get to vote because we’re on probation (roughly a third of the pilot group). Many of us are embarrassed by the fact that you guys only shot that TA down by 3 votes.
Don’t assume that everyone on this forum that says something slightly against your liking is your enemy. You have clearly been here a while and have a lot to offer. This type of response is pretty sad when you could offer some actual knowledge instead.
07-19-2018, 09:14 PM
#38
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Posts: 225
Originally Posted by T28driver
Good post. Constructive. Adds to the discussion. Thanks.
FYI, a lot of us didn’t get to vote because we’re on probation (roughly a third of the pilot group). Many of us are embarrassed by the fact that you guys only shot that TA down by 3 votes.
Don’t assume that everyone on this forum that says something slightly against your liking is your enemy. You have clearly been here a while and have a lot to offer. This type of response is pretty sad when you could offer some actual knowledge instead.
FYI, a lot of us didn’t get to vote because we’re on probation (roughly a third of the pilot group). Many of us are embarrassed by the fact that you guys only shot that TA down by 3 votes.
Don’t assume that everyone on this forum that says something slightly against your liking is your enemy. You have clearly been here a while and have a lot to offer. This type of response is pretty sad when you could offer some actual knowledge instead.
Well said, we are ALL on the same team.
07-20-2018, 04:50 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by lukeh99
The contract says that in the event you are displaced you are not seat locked. So the question is whether or not a displacement from MKE CA to CAE CA counts as a displacement or not under that section. This is the original question as I understand it.
Section 24.k.5 says:
Effect of a displacement
A pilot who is displaced from his position shall not be subject to a freeze in the position into which he displaces.
Section 2.CC
“Position” means equipment, seat, and domicile.
That’s my rationale asking why you couldn’t just bid back to FO. It is a question though so if you know more than me please bestow upon me your divine wisdom.
Section 24.k.5 says:
Effect of a displacement
A pilot who is displaced from his position shall not be subject to a freeze in the position into which he displaces.
Section 2.CC
“Position” means equipment, seat, and domicile.
That’s my rationale asking why you couldn’t just bid back to FO. It is a question though so if you know more than me please bestow upon me your divine wisdom.
"just bid back to FO" means downbidding, not displacement. Both are addressed in the contract. You quoted displacement. Here's downbidding...
Section 24.K.2.C No freeze will result from an award to a Captain position, unless the award is to a turbo-prop Captain position as described in paragraph K.2.b. above, or unless the award is the result of a downbid (excluding a displacement). A pilot who downbids will incur a twenty-four (24) month freeze. A pilot may not exercise the right to downbid more than two (2) times (excluding a displacement).
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