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Old 12-19-2018 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
“Yeah you get the entire bonus on day one with no obligation. Sign here.”

Talk to someone in payroll or HR. Everything else is hearsay.
Anyone who is presently employed or recently went through training have or willing to share what the actual contract says?
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Old 12-19-2018 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DHC2FloatFlyer
Anyone who is presently employed or recently went through training have or willing to share what the actual contract says?
Pretty sure it’s:

5k. 100% vested 1 year from doh. Pay back 100% before this date.

ATP CTP pay back 3500 if you leave before 1 year.

IOE 26k and Type 8k. 50% vested at one year from doh. Months 13-24 each vest a pro-rated share of remaining 50%. Fully vested at 2 year.

We are not actually paying out the remaining 8k of the 56k nor have we ever so I’m not sure if that vests right away or not.
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Old 12-19-2018 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DHC2FloatFlyer
Anyone who is presently employed or recently went through training have or willing to share what the actual contract says?
It’s available for like 15 minutes during new hire training and then after you sign it disappears into the ether and they won’t give you a copy. Only people that are going to have the actual text of the thing are people currently in Indoc.

Anything you hear from anyone besides payroll/HR or someone who is on that particular day of Indoc and manages to snag a copy is hearsay unless they’ve finally started letting people see it again.
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Old 12-19-2018 | 06:19 PM
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By the time you get out of IOE, you only have 1 yr 6 months to get to 2 years anyway. Just stick it out, it's not that long and the $57k is yours. Easy Peesey.
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Old 12-25-2018 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Soxfan1
Pretty sure it’s:

5k. 100% vested 1 year from doh. Pay back 100% before this date.

ATP CTP pay back 3500 if you leave before 1 year.

IOE 26k and Type 8k. 50% vested at one year from doh. Months 13-24 each vest a pro-rated share of remaining 50%. Fully vested at 2 year.

We are not actually paying out the remaining 8k of the 56k nor have we ever so I’m not sure if that vests right away or not.
Just to confirm, if you leave right after 12 months you keep the $5k bonus but would have to pay back half of the $36k ($26k for IOE plus $10k after 1yr on property)?
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Old 12-25-2018 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
It’s available for like 15 minutes during new hire training and then after you sign it disappears into the ether and they won’t give you a copy. Only people that are going to have the actual text of the thing are people currently in Indoc.

Anything you hear from anyone besides payroll/HR or someone who is on that particular day of Indoc and manages to snag a copy is hearsay unless they’ve finally started letting people see it again.
That’s a little shady, not knocking it as not real im just saying I’m not sure understand why it’s such a secret the way they’re presenting it. Good bonus though for sure.
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Old 12-25-2018 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Av8tor8710
Ah. Understood.

I went to the AW website and did the “hours calculator” they have. When I took the results of “time left” and added it to my TT the sum was 1,400 and that’s with 50hrs of sim already from a 142 included in the hours I gave. Just trying to figure out if AW does something similar, to Republic, in terms of reducing the sign on and if so by how much is it reduced, because someone has to pay for the additional training right? Ha. 🤷*♂️
Why not just fly your pre 121 job/events until you hit 1500 just like most every other airline pilot I know. Some of us even had over 2,000 hours or more before heading to the jets. I’m just saying it seems easier and less costly to your bonuses to not worry about such things and take the extra month and a half to get it done. Obviously you’re motivated which is good.
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Old 12-26-2018 | 10:34 PM
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Thank you all for the clarification on the vesting times for the Bonuses. I've got 5500+TT but most of that is in King Airs. I need 500+ Jet for my preferred "career airline" and have been looking at regionals for the hours to complete the required experience. AW was topping the list due to first year pay, but I'm going to do some reordering now that I know that 26k requires a 2 year commitment.
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Old 12-27-2018 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Clue32
Thank you all for the clarification on the vesting times for the Bonuses. I've got 5500+TT but most of that is in King Airs. I need 500+ Jet for my preferred "career airline" and have been looking at regionals for the hours to complete the required experience. AW was topping the list due to first year pay, but I'm going to do some reordering now that I know that 26k requires a 2 year commitment.
Just defer it all. If you leave before one year no harm no foul. If you happen to get stuck you get it all in 12 installments months 13-24. Nearly every veteran does it this way and leaves once the big 3 call. Helps on taxes too as it can spread to money out over 2 income tax years.
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Old 12-27-2018 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Soxfan1
Just defer it all. If you leave before one year no harm no foul. If you happen to get stuck you get it all in 12 installments months 13-24. Nearly every veteran does it this way and leaves once the big 3 call. Helps on taxes too as it can spread to money out over 2 income tax years.
Disagree. Take it all, put it in savings, give it back if you leave. You never know what will happen to the bonus program. Better one check in the hand than 10 in the air or something....
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